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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Alexandre Bounine <Alexandre.Bounine@tundra.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	linuxppc-dev list <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: TSI ethernet PHY question
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 16:24:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7507d41be286f5a08a8a00538aab314d@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1180058031.32247.1091.camel@localhost.localdomain>

>> However in this case you could put a property in the
>> PHY node, similar things have been done before.  It's
>> ugly and doesn't solve any problem (it is just as much
>> work to parse the board model as to find this magic
>> property), and you *still* should pass in the flag
>> from the platform layer, and not have the phylib try
>> to handle it by itself.
>
> I disagree, it's not ugly and nicely solves the problem.

It doesn't solve the conceived problem that making this
a board-dependent workaround would be "too hard".

> For example, imagine you have 2 PHYs on a board and only one needs the
> workaround ? Really, the PHY node is the best place for it.

Then the board code will know that.

>> The ethernet driver is a powerpc-specific driver, that's
>> one thing.  Also, the workaround should be initiated by
>> the platform code, so has to go through the ethernet driver
>> (since it instantiates the phylib driver).
>
> Still... it can be done via generic calls in powerpc ethernet drivers
> that set flags in phylib based on things in the device-tree.

Yes, exactly.

>> For many similar workarounds, the ethernet driver _does_ have
>> to cooperate in the workaround.  For some other such workarounds,
>> the soc code has to be involved.  Etc. etc.
>
>> You can do a quick "fix" now by doing this magic property
>> thing, and it sure is a *quick* fix; but later on you'll
>> have to do some other workarounds the proper way.  And
>> you'll be stuck with the property forever.  Not such a
>> big deal, sure; hey, I already _did_ say I'm okay with it,
>> right?  It's just the "wrong" thing to do ;-)
>
> I have no bloody idea what you consider "the proper way"

Make board-specific workarounds triggered by the board code.

> I think it's the right thing to do.

And I don't :-)  But I already said I'm okay with it, it's
only one property and it won't hurt anything else.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-25 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-23  7:03 TSI ethernet PHY question Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-23 13:43 ` Alexandre Bounine
2007-05-23 15:55   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-23 22:52   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-24 18:53     ` Andy Fleming
2007-05-24 22:51       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-24 23:54         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-25  0:01           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-25  0:57             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-25  1:53               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-25 14:24                 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-05-25  6:02               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-05-25 14:25                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-25  2:00           ` David Gibson
2007-05-25  7:35             ` Zang Roy-r61911
2007-05-25 14:17             ` Segher Boessenkool

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