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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, John Linn <john.linn@xilinx.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart 16550.
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:37:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75a17dc1bd4e99a473ed679ccf9b210f@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47E3B189.6060002@ru.mvista.com>

>> Personally, I'm not fond of this approach.  There is already some
>> traction to using the reg-shift property to specify spacing, and I
>> think it would be appropriate to also define a reg-offset property to
>> handle the +3 offset and then let the xilinx 16550 nodes use those.
>
>    That's making things only worse than the mere "reg-shift" idea. I 
> think that both are totally wrong. Everything about the programming 
> interface should be said in the "compatible" and possibly "model" 
> properties.

No.  In effect, you are saying here that no device binding should define
any binding-specific properties.  This will just lead to combinatorial
explosion of "compatible" values.

That said, "reg-spacing"/"reg-shift"/"reg-offset" should *not* be
considered something generic; they are part of specific device
bindings.  Of course it is nice if various bindings use the same
names for the same concepts, but that's an orthogonal issue.

>  of_serial driver should recognize them and pass the necessary details 
> to 8250.c. As for me, I'm strongly against plaguing the device tree 
> with the *Linux driver implementation specifics*

"reg-*" has nothing to do with Linux device driver implementation
issues: it describes how a device is physically wired up!

> (despite I was trying this with MTD -- there it seemed somewhat more 
> grounded :-).

Quite the opposite, but let's not rehash that discussion.

>> In support of my argument; the fact that you need a table of data says
>> to me that this data should really be encoded in the device tree.  :-)
>
>    Not at all.

Not _necessarily_.  I agree with Grant here: for many of these devices
with byte-size registers, it is very common to find them with their
register banks wired up differently, and that is often the *only*
difference to the "normal" device.  In this situation, it makes a lot
of sense to describe that difference with "reg-*" properties.

In some other situations, it is better to create a new binding for
the device.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-21 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <12060242324116-git-send-email-john.linn@xilinx.com>
2008-03-20 14:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart 16550 John Linn
2008-03-21  0:19   ` Grant Likely
2008-03-21  9:21     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-21 11:39       ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-03-21 16:08         ` [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart16550 Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-03-21 16:48           ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-03-22 14:50       ` [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart 16550 Grant Likely
2008-03-22 16:06         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-24 14:09         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-24 14:27           ` Grant Likely
2008-03-24 16:15             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-24 16:48               ` Grant Likely
2008-03-24 17:03               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-25 22:48                 ` John Linn
2008-03-21 13:00     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-21 15:37       ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2008-03-21 15:54         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-21 16:45           ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-03-21 16:50             ` [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart16550 Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-03-21 17:01             ` [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart 16550 Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-22 15:06       ` Grant Likely
2008-03-22 16:40         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-21 16:14     ` [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart16550 Stephen Neuendorffer
     [not found] ` <1206024232655-git-send-email-john.linn@xilinx.com>
2008-03-20 14:43   ` [PATCH 3/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: boot support for Xilinx uart 16550 John Linn
2008-03-20 14:54     ` Grant Likely
2008-03-20 16:15       ` John Linn
2008-03-20 21:18         ` Grant Likely
     [not found]       ` <20080320175601.5D86217C8055@mail127-sin.bigfish.com>
2008-03-20 21:07         ` Grant Likely
2008-03-20 22:04     ` Grant Likely

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