From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Josh Poimboeuf' <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 2/6] x86/uaccess: Avoid barrier_nospec() in 64-bit __get_user()
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 17:12:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <76bb85ceeb854e3ab68d87f846515306@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241029032735.pw3bg64bpneqnfhk@treble.attlocal.net>
From: Josh Poimboeuf
> Sent: 29 October 2024 03:28
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 06:56:15PM -0700, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > The barrier_nospec() in 64-bit __get_user() is slow. Instead use
> > pointer masking to force the user pointer to all 1's if a previous
> > access_ok() mispredicted true for an invalid address.
>
> Linus pointed out that __get_user() may be used by some code to access
> both kernel and user space and in fact I found one such usage in
> vc_read_mem()....
>
> So I self-NAK this patch for now.
>
> Still, it would be great if patch 1 could get merged as that gives a
> significant performance boost.
I'm a bit late to the party and still a week behind :-(
But I've wondered if access_ok() ought to be implemented using an
'asm goto with output' - much like get_user().
Then the use would be:
masked_address = access_ok(maybe_bad_address, size, jump_label);
with later user accesses using the masked_address.
Once you've done that __get_user() doesn't need to contain address masking.
Given that clac/stac iare so slow should there are be something that
combines stac with access_ok() bracketed with a 'user_access_end'
or an actual fault.
I've sure there is code (maybe reading iovec[] or in sys_poll())
that wants to do multiple get/put_user in a short loop rather that
calling copy_to/from_user().
David
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-08 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-29 1:56 [PATCH v3 0/6] x86/uaccess: avoid barrier_nospec() Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29 1:56 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] x86/uaccess: Avoid barrier_nospec() in 64-bit copy_from_user() Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29 8:13 ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2024-10-30 2:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-30 4:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29 1:56 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] x86/uaccess: Avoid barrier_nospec() in 64-bit __get_user() Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29 3:27 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-08 17:12 ` David Laight [this message]
2024-11-15 23:06 ` 'Josh Poimboeuf'
2024-11-16 1:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-16 21:38 ` David Laight
2024-11-16 23:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-21 21:40 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-21 22:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-22 0:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-22 1:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-22 3:11 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-22 3:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-22 9:06 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-11-22 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-22 19:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-22 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-24 16:11 ` David Laight
2024-11-24 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-22 9:38 ` David Laight
2024-10-29 1:56 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] x86/uaccess: Avoid barrier_nospec() in 32-bit copy_from_user() Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29 1:56 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] x86/uaccess: Convert 32-bit get_user() to unconditional pointer masking Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29 1:56 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] x86/uaccess: Avoid barrier_nospec() in 32-bit __get_user() Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29 1:56 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] x86/uaccess: Converge [__]get_user() implementations Josh Poimboeuf
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