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From: Hari Bathini <hbathini@linux.ibm.com>
To: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Pingfan Liu <piliu@redhat.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, npiggin@gmail.com,
	Mahesh J Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Wen Xiong <wenxiong@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 01/14] blk-mq: add blk_mq_max_nr_hw_queues()
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 13:23:05 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <772c4140-3035-16d8-0253-f5893c3698e2@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNRTGrRuwf69EgnE@MiWiFi-R3L-srv>



On 10/08/23 8:31 am, Baoquan He wrote:
> On 08/10/23 at 10:06am, Ming Lei wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 09:18:27AM +0800, Baoquan He wrote:
>>> On 08/10/23 at 08:09am, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 03:44:01PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>>> I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but we can't just do random
>>>>> is_kdump checks, and it's not going to get better by resending it again and
>>>>> again.  If kdump kernels limit the number of possible CPUs, it needs to
>>>>> reflected in cpu_possible_map and we need to use that information.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you look at previous kdump/arch guys' comment about kdump usage &
>>>> num_possible_cpus?
>>>>
>>>>      https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/CAF+s44RuqswbosY9kMDx35crviQnxOeuvgNsuE75Bb0Y2Jg2uw@mail.gmail.com/
>>>>      https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/ZKz912KyFQ7q9qwL@MiWiFi-R3L-srv/
>>>>
>>>> The point is that kdump kernels does not limit the number of possible CPUs.
>>>>
>>>> 1) some archs support 'nr_cpus=1' for kdump kernel, which is fine, since
>>>> num_possible_cpus becomes 1.
>>>
>>> Yes, "nr_cpus=" is strongly suggested in kdump kernel because "nr_cpus="
>>> limits the possible cpu numbers, while "maxcpuss=" only limits the cpu
>>> number which can be brought up during bootup. We noticed this diference
>>> because a large number of possible cpus will cost more memory in kdump
>>> kernel. e.g percpu initialization, even though kdump kernel have set
>>> "maxcpus=1".
>>>
>>> Currently x86 and arm64 all support "nr_cpus=". Pingfan ever spent much
>>> effort to make patches to add "nr_cpus=" support to ppc64, seems ppc64
>>> dev and maintainers do not care about it. Finally the patches are not
>>> accepted, and the work is not continued.
>>>
>>> Now, I am wondering what is the barrier to add "nr_cpus=" to power ach.
>>> Can we reconsider adding 'nr_cpus=' to power arch since real issue
>>> occurred in kdump kernel?
>>
>> If 'nr_cpus=' can be supported on ppc64, this patchset isn't needed.
>>
>>>
>>> As for this patchset, it can be accpeted so that no failure in kdump
>>> kernel is seen on ARCHes w/o "nr_cpus=" support? My personal opinion.
>>
>> IMO 'nr_cpus=' support should be preferred, given it is annoying to
>> maintain two kinds of implementation for kdump kernel from driver
>> viewpoint. I guess kdump things can be simplified too with supporting
>> 'nr_cpus=' only.
> 
> Yes, 'nr_cpus=' is ideal. Not sure if there's some underlying concerns so
> that power people decided to not support it.

Though "nr_cpus=1" is an ideal solution, maintainer was not happy with
the patch as the code changes have impact for regular boot path and
it is likely to cause breakages. So, even if "nr_cpus=1" support for
ppc64 is revived, the change is going to take time to be accepted
upstream.

Also, I see is_kdump_kernel() being used irrespective of "nr_cpus=1"
support for other optimizations in the driver for the special dump
capture environment kdump is.

If there is no other downside for driver code, to use is_kdump_kernel(),
other than the maintainability aspect, I think the above changes are
worth considering.

Thanks
Hari

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-11  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20230808104239.146085-2-ming.lei@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <20230809134401.GA31852@lst.de>
2023-08-10  0:09     ` [PATCH V3 01/14] blk-mq: add blk_mq_max_nr_hw_queues() Ming Lei
2023-08-10  1:18       ` Baoquan He
2023-08-10  2:06         ` Ming Lei
2023-08-10  3:01           ` Baoquan He
2023-08-11  7:53             ` Hari Bathini [this message]
2023-09-05  5:03               ` Baoquan He
2023-08-11 13:10       ` Christoph Hellwig

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