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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Kumar Gala <galak@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] add Altivec/VMX state to coredumps
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:38:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <859030d435cf9990c7a582cde8fe670c@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AE678FA4-5ABF-4EAC-B691-CCE5D277955F@kernel.crashing.org>

>>>>> Why not put the PVR in core dumps that'd make it all easier..
>>>>
>>>> PVR wouldn't be very useful...  What if you have altivec disabled ?
>>>> Also
>>>> that would mean your gdb has to know about all new processors...
>>>
>>> Is that such a big deal? :D
>>>
>>> Hypothetically it would be impossible to determine if you were 
>>> running
>>> on a G5 with the FPU and AltiVec turned off or an e500 core with SPE,
>>> given the data saved.
>>
>> And that is exactly as should be: a core dump represents the execution
>> state of a user program, it has nothing to do with the machine it was
>> generated on; it even is possible to restart a core dump generated on
>> e.g. an e500 on a 970, as long as it doesn't use facilities (e.g., 
>> SPE)
>> that the latter processor / execution environment doesn't provide.
>>
>>> Is that a misfeature of GDB that we even have to
>>> worry about this, or some noble plus point of a unified ISA? You
>>> decide :)
>>
>> We don't have to worry about it :-)
>
> We should worry about it.  If one misinterprets the core file you will 
> get unexpected behavior.

I read this as "worry about the PVR".

> I see no reason not to do this properly and mark the sections such 
> that its clear if its AltiVec or SPE state, rather than overloading 
> the x86 XFPU type.

Yes, certainly, I thought we all agreed on that automatically :-)


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-26 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-25  4:03 [PATCH] add Altivec/VMX state to coredumps Mark Nelson
2007-09-25 12:39 ` Kumar Gala
2007-09-25 18:00   ` Matt Sealey
2007-09-25 22:18     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-09-26 11:05       ` Matt Sealey
2007-09-26 13:21         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-26 13:32           ` Kumar Gala
2007-09-26 13:38             ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-09-26 14:00           ` Matt Sealey
2007-09-26  1:22   ` Mark Nelson
2007-09-26  3:56     ` Kumar Gala
2007-09-26  4:56       ` Mark Nelson
2007-09-26  5:37         ` Kumar Gala
2007-09-26  7:42           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-09-27  2:53             ` Michael Ellerman
2007-09-27  2:48           ` Michael Ellerman
2007-09-27 10:10             ` Kumar Gala
2007-09-27 23:54               ` Michael Ellerman

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