From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [112.213.38.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56DA8C07545 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 09:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=k20201202 header.b=Dby9AI0p; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from boromir.ozlabs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SF6JH73PHz3cVH for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 20:31:27 +1100 (AEDT) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=k20201202 header.b=Dby9AI0p; dkim-atps=neutral Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=kernel.org (client-ip=139.178.84.217; helo=dfw.source.kernel.org; envelope-from=kvalo@kernel.org; receiver=lists.ozlabs.org) Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SF6HM1Zjtz2xqH for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 20:30:39 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (transwarp.subspace.kernel.org [100.75.92.58]) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61BC62ADE; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 09:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3EABCC433C8; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 09:30:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1698139836; bh=CB0uZasGotH3WSQ2XD6CQGludeAGY3f8w17TrzekeQU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Dby9AI0p83lKR7U5CCjg2W7DpqRQqyb59zNfumlkY8ts8VHFwcff/XFzqbRKMY55Q RPEGb17YmlSQo+XND8ZEqC7yXRo+6kDE9s3zllgDm+XX6xUwEB5Z4wXMl+4sx4O02e HlDNnlnAG9UftAcKGoZHxSGp4zKOqPsYGiLTNoVQbiaXrsshmAYMv0FyYHYIOOaS0K FNXQGox4XxUgAWUtTfAGwv5zHAnOri9VwXtnN3WXrk66gXQ6NM2RfYSYo+eyHFUIRd CbCvNJqEy1WbUgxeM336II3ysCBIN6XpQjlNUkpd2/EQUjF31mxQmi6Kk7gjMRduMv TE0I45NGqEfNA== From: Kalle Valo To: Stefan Lippers-Hollmann Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/10] [RFC] wifi: remove ipw2100/ipw2200 drivers References: <20231023131953.2876682-1-arnd@kernel.org> <20231023131953.2876682-11-arnd@kernel.org> <20231024014302.0a0b79b0@mir> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 12:30:29 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20231024014302.0a0b79b0@mir> (Stefan Lippers-Hollmann's message of "Tue, 24 Oct 2023 01:43:02 +0200") Message-ID: <875y2wz7t6.fsf@kernel.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Alexandre Belloni , Claudiu Beznea , Jeff Johnson , Pavel Machek , Gregory Greenman , Stanislaw Gruszka , linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, Linux Wireless , Geert Uytterhoeven , Jakub Kicinski , Stanislav Yakovlev , Arnd Bergmann , Nicolas Ferre , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Arnd Bergmann , Geoff Levand , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Johannes Berg , linuxppc-dev , "David S . Miller" , Larry Finger Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" Stefan Lippers-Hollmann writes: > On 2023-10-23, Arnd Bergmann wrote: >> From: Arnd Bergmann >> >> These two drivers were used for the earliest "Centrino" branded Intel >> laptops during the late 32-bit Pentium-M era, roughly 2003 to 2005, which >> probably makes it the most modern platform that still uses the wireless >> extension interface instead of cfg80211. Unlike the other drivers that >> are suggested for removal, this one is still officially maintained. >> >> According to Johannes Berg, there was an effort to finish the move away >> from wext in the past, but the last evidence of this that I could find >> is from commit a3caa99e6c68f ("libipw: initiate cfg80211 API conversion >> (v2)") in 2009. >> >> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/87fs2fgals.fsf@kernel.org/ >> Cc: Stanislav Yakovlev >> Cc: Linux Wireless >> Signed-off-by: Arnd Bergmann >> --- >> I'm not convinced this should be in the same set of drivers as the >> rest, since this is clearly less obsolete than the other hardware >> that I would remove support for. > > These have indeed been very common back in the day, I'm still using > a 2003-vintage 1.5 GHz Pentium-M 'Banias' Acer Travelmate 292LMi > notebook using ipw2200 (and have two spare ipw2200 mini-PCI cards). > Works still fine using v6.5.8-rc1 and WPA2PSK/ CCMP (sadly it does > not do WPA3) and I do use it semi-regularly (running the latest > stable- or stable-rc kernel of the day). > > While it would be nice to replace it with an ath5k based card (to > get WPA3 support), the card isn't that easy to reach in the notebook, > so it would be sad to see this go. Wow, I'm very surprised that ipw2200 still works after 20 years. Thanks for the report, I think it's best that we still keep the ipw2x00 driver in the kernel. -- https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/ https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches