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From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Rohan McLure <rmclure@linux.ibm.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/6] powerpc/smp: Enable Asym packing for cores on shared processor
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 22:50:43 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h6mm6dbg.fsf@mail.lhotse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231019074828.GM33217@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 03:38:40PM +1100, Michael Ellerman wrote:
>> Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
>> > If there are shared processor LPARs, underlying Hypervisor can have more
>> > virtual cores to handle than actual physical cores.
>> >
>> > Starting with Power 9, a core has 2 nearly independent thread groups.
>> 
>> You need to be clearer here that you're talking about "big cores", not
>> SMT4 cores as seen on bare metal systems.
>
> What is a 'big core' ? I'm thinking big.LITTLE, but I didn't think Power
> went that route (yet?).. help?

No it's not big.LITTLE :)

It means we have two SMT4 cores glued together that behave as a single
SMT8 core, a system is either in "big core" mode or it's not, it's never
heterogeneous.

If you grep for "big_core" there's some code in the kernel for dealing
with it, though it's probably not very illuminating.

Possibly we should switch to using the "thread group" terminology, so
that it doesn't confuse folks about big.LITTLE. Also the device tree
property that we use to discover if we're using big cores is called
ibm,thread-groups.

cheers

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-19 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-18 16:37 [PATCH v2 0/6] powerpc/smp: Shared processor sched optimizations Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-18 16:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] powerpc/smp: Cache CPU has Asymmetric SMP Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-19  4:33   ` Michael Ellerman
2023-10-20  9:09     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-18 16:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] powerpc/smp: Enable Asym packing for cores on shared processor Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-19  4:38   ` Michael Ellerman
2023-10-19  7:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 11:50       ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2023-10-19 12:54       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-19 15:56   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2023-10-20  5:44     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-18 16:37 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] powerpc/smp: Move shared_processor static key to smp.h Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-19  4:41   ` Michael Ellerman
2023-10-19 13:08     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-20 10:44       ` Michael Ellerman
2023-10-19 10:30   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2023-10-18 16:37 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] powerpc/smp: Disable MC domain for shared processor Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-19  4:48   ` Michael Ellerman
2023-10-19  7:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 13:23       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-19 13:16     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-18 16:37 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] powerpc/smp: Add read_mostly attribute Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-19  4:49   ` Michael Ellerman
2023-10-19  7:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 12:56     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2023-10-18 16:37 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] powerpc/smp: Avoid asym packing within thread_group of a core Srikar Dronamraju

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