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From: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	oohall@gmail.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/7] powerpc/pmem: Restrict papr_scm to P8 and above.
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:48:32 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pmolo39z.fsf@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220121084056.GD3113@kunlun.suse.cz>

Michal Suchánek <msuchanek@suse.de> writes:

> Hello,
>
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 12:52:29PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
>> The PAPR based virtualized persistent memory devices are only supported on
>> POWER9 and above. In the followup patch, the kernel will switch the persistent
>> memory cache flush functions to use a new `dcbf` variant instruction. The new
>> instructions even though added in ISA 3.1 works even on P8 and P9 because these
>> are implemented as a variant of existing `dcbf` and `hwsync` and on P8 and
>> P9 behaves as such.
>> 
>> Considering these devices are only supported on P8 and above,  update the driver
>> to prevent a P7-compat guest from using persistent memory devices.
>> 
>> We don't update of_pmem driver with the same condition, because, on bare-metal,
>> the firmware enables pmem support only on P9 and above. There the kernel depends
>> on OPAL firmware to restrict exposing persistent memory related device tree
>> entries on older hardware. of_pmem.ko is written without any arch dependency and
>> we don't want to add ppc64 specific cpu feature check in of_pmem driver.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
>> ---
>>  arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/pmem.c | 6 ++++++
>>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
>> 
>> diff --git a/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/pmem.c b/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/pmem.c
>> index f860a897a9e0..2347e1038f58 100644
>> --- a/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/pmem.c
>> +++ b/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/pmem.c
>> @@ -147,6 +147,12 @@ const struct of_device_id drc_pmem_match[] = {
>>  
>>  static int pseries_pmem_init(void)
>>  {
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Only supported on POWER8 and above.
>> +	 */
>> +	if (!cpu_has_feature(CPU_FTR_ARCH_207S))
>> +		return 0;
>> +
>
> This looks superfluous.
>
> The hypervisor is responsible for publishing the pmem in devicetree when
> present, kernel is responsible for using it when supported by the
> kernel.
>
> Or is there a problem that the flush instruction is not available in P7
> compat mode?

We want to avoid the usage of persistent memory on p7 compat mode
because such a guest can LPM migrate to p7 systems. Now ideally I would
expect hypervisor to avoid such migration, that is a p7 compat mode
guest running on p10 using persistence memory migrating to p7
(considering p7 never really had support for persistent memory).

There was also the complexity w.r.t what instructions the userspace will
use. So it was discussed at that point that we could comfortably state
and prevent the usage of persistent memory on p7 and below. 

>
> Even then volatile regions should still work.

That is a different problem altogether. We could really kill the usage of
cache flush w.r.t volatile regions from the nvdimm driver right? 

For all these reason, disabling pmem on p7 was found to be the simplest solution. 

-aneesh

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-21  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-01  7:22 [PATCH v7 0/7] Support new pmem flush and sync instructions for POWER Aneesh Kumar K.V
2020-07-01  7:22 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] powerpc/pmem: Restrict papr_scm to P8 and above Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-21  8:40   ` Michal Suchánek
2022-01-21  9:18     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2022-01-21 13:27       ` Michal Suchánek
2020-07-01  7:22 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] powerpc/pmem: Add new instructions for persistent storage and sync Aneesh Kumar K.V
2020-07-01  7:22 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] powerpc/pmem: Add flush routines using new pmem store and sync instruction Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-21  7:36   ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-21  9:07     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2020-07-01  7:22 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] libnvdimm/nvdimm/flush: Allow architecture to override the flush barrier Aneesh Kumar K.V
2020-07-01  7:22 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] powerpc/pmem: Update ppc64 to use the new barrier instruction Aneesh Kumar K.V
2020-07-01  7:22 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] powerpc/pmem: Avoid the barrier in flush routines Aneesh Kumar K.V
2020-07-01  7:22 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] powerpc/pmem: Initialize pmem device on newer hardware Aneesh Kumar K.V
2020-07-16 12:55 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] Support new pmem flush and sync instructions for POWER Michael Ellerman

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