From: Murray Jensen <Murray.Jensen@cmst.csiro.au>
To: Val Henson <val@nmt.edu>
Cc: benh@kernel.crashing.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: EV-64260-BP & GT64260 bi_recs
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 00:07:27 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9477.1016888847@msa.cmst.csiro.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:01:03 -0700" <20020322210103.C3363@boardwalk>
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:01:03 -0700, Val Henson <val@nmt.edu> writes:
>while (rec->tag != BI_LAST) {
> /* fiddle with each individual record */
> rec = (struct bi_record *)((ulong)rec + rec->size);
>}
Won't this code still work with benh's proposal? The "fiddle" part above
may delve into the structure, but at the top level the record is still
treated exactly like above.
>The simplicity of this system is valuable - I don't want to give it up
>unless we get lots and lots of added functionality in return.
I agree with this. In fact, we shouldn't give up simplicity for any reason.
>Dan
>Malek's comments suggest that bi_recs should only be used for only a
>small, simple class of information. In this context, I don't see what
>structures buy us.
That's because he sees no value in having a lot of data passed in from the
boot loader. On the other hand, I believe that if the kernel can learn
something from the boot loader, it should - rather than duplicate the code
that is already in the boot loader, or hard-wire configuration information -
and if this ends up being a lot of data and/or with a complicated structure
(this isn't automatically the case btw), then so be it. This can be achieved
with "simple" bi_recs, if they are defined in the right way.
>I have to admit, bi_rec structures are a really cool idea, but I
>prefer simplicity over coolness. :)
The beauty of the proposal is that it *is* simple. bi_recs within bi_recs.
The top level treats the record as one (typeless) chunk of data. I have
actually requested *more* types (e.g. arrays), and also the saving of
certain (most?) bi_recs so that loadable modules can consult them later
(rather than requiring code in the kernel startup to parse the records).
Cheers!
Murray...
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-23 13:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-03-20 0:43 EV-64260-BP & GT64260 bi_recs Michael Sokolov
2002-03-19 23:00 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-20 7:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20 13:19 ` benh
2002-03-20 15:30 ` Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 16:19 ` Tom Rini
2002-03-20 16:58 ` benh
2002-03-23 4:01 ` Val Henson
2002-03-23 13:07 ` Murray Jensen [this message]
2002-03-24 12:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 12:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 19:09 ` Val Henson
2002-03-24 16:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-25 8:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-24 18:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-26 2:16 ` Val Henson
2002-03-26 10:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 19:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-24 16:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 17:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-25 0:44 ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-25 22:05 ` Val Henson
2002-03-26 3:21 ` Val Henson
2002-03-26 4:14 ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-26 10:14 ` benh
2002-03-26 12:05 ` Gabriel Paubert
2002-03-26 12:18 ` benh
2002-03-26 23:24 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-26 21:40 ` benh
2002-03-27 15:13 ` Mark A. Greer
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-27 20:09 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 18:53 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 19:37 ` benh
2002-03-27 18:34 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 18:32 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 18:46 ` benh
2002-03-27 18:03 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 16:16 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 16:24 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 18:40 ` benh
2002-03-27 18:02 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 18:06 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 17:32 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 15:46 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 17:48 ` benh
2002-03-27 15:59 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 2:37 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-26 21:52 ` benh
2002-03-27 14:15 ` Matt Porter
2002-03-27 15:10 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 15:15 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 17:47 ` benh
2002-03-28 9:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-27 1:35 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-26 23:48 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-24 16:02 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21 2:13 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21 6:39 ` Dan Malek
2002-03-31 8:32 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-04-01 18:39 ` Dan Malek
2002-04-02 5:32 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-04-02 16:33 ` Tom Rini
2002-04-02 17:29 ` Dan Malek
2002-04-02 14:42 ` Armin
2002-04-02 20:12 ` Tom Rini
2002-04-02 21:02 ` Dan Malek
2002-04-03 0:21 ` Tom Rini
[not found] <dan@embeddededge.com>
[not found] ` <3C98DA15.50302@embeddededge.com>
2002-03-21 1:11 ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-21 6:50 ` Dan Malek
2002-03-21 11:05 ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-21 1:10 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21 0:57 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21 6:58 ` Dan Malek
2002-03-21 0:47 Michael Sokolov
[not found] <3C98B189.78A92DFE@mvista.com>
2002-03-20 18:12 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] ` <3C98DB49.2C3A2F79@mvista.com>
2002-03-23 3:49 ` Val Henson
2002-03-20 17:11 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 18:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20 17:04 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 17:25 ` Tom Rini
2002-03-21 20:36 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-21 19:17 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-21 21:36 ` Jim Potter
[not found] <20020320164025.31626@mailhost.mipsys.com>
2002-03-20 16:59 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] <20020320155551.GD3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20 16:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] <20020320150119.GB3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20 15:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20 1:02 Michael Sokolov
[not found] <20020320000500.GV3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20 0:28 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] <20020319235815.GU3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20 0:24 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] <20020319224420.GO3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-19 23:00 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20 0:03 ` Gabriel Paubert
[not found] <20020319231628.GQ3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-19 23:46 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] <3C97A9C1.EBA150B6@mvista.com>
2002-03-19 23:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
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