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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] mm: free retracted page table by RCU
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 23:28:27 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <99fadcf-3979-a493-2664-291c5fbce19e@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez1Yua=6ztK6Urc-BZj9ku14MWbOKP8iBUK6_F5VzRXP-A@mail.gmail.com>

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On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 6:37 AM Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com> wrote:
> 
> > The most obvious vital thing (in the split ptlock case) is that it
> > remains a struct page with a usable ptl spinlock embedded in it.
> >
> > The question becomes more urgent when/if extending to replacing the
> > pagetable pmd by huge pmd in one go, without any mmap_lock: powerpc
> > wants to deposit the page table for later use even in the shmem/file
> > case (and all arches in the anon case): I did work out the details once
> > before, but I'm not sure whether I would still agree with myself; and was
> > glad to leave replacement out of this series, to revisit some time later.
> >
> > >
> > > So in particular, in handle_pte_fault() we can reach the "if
> > > (unlikely(!pte_same(*vmf->pte, entry)))" with vmf->pte pointing to a
> > > detached zeroed page table, but we're okay with that because in that
> > > case we know that !pte_none(vmf->orig_pte)&&pte_none(*vmf->pte) ,
> > > which implies !pte_same(*vmf->pte, entry) , which means we'll bail
> > > out?
> >
> > There is no current (even at end of series) circumstance in which we
> > could be pointing to a detached page table there; but yes, I want to
> > allow for that, and yes I agree with your analysis.
> 
> Hmm, what am I missing here?

I spent quite a while trying to reconstruct what I had been thinking,
what meaning of "detached" or "there" I had in mind when I asserted so
confidently "There is no current (even at end of series) circumstance
in which we could be pointing to a detached page table there".

But had to give up and get on with more useful work.
Of course you are right, and that is what this series is about.

Hugh

> 
> static vm_fault_t handle_pte_fault(struct vm_fault *vmf)
> {
>   pte_t entry;
> 
>   if (unlikely(pmd_none(*vmf->pmd))) {
>     [not executed]
>   } else {
>     /*
>      * A regular pmd is established and it can't morph into a huge
>      * pmd by anon khugepaged, since that takes mmap_lock in write
>      * mode; but shmem or file collapse to THP could still morph
>      * it into a huge pmd: just retry later if so.
>      */
>     vmf->pte = pte_offset_map_nolock(vmf->vma->vm_mm, vmf->pmd,
>              vmf->address, &vmf->ptl);
>     if (unlikely(!vmf->pte))
>       [not executed]
>     // this reads a present readonly PTE
>     vmf->orig_pte = ptep_get_lockless(vmf->pte);
>     vmf->flags |= FAULT_FLAG_ORIG_PTE_VALID;
> 
>     if (pte_none(vmf->orig_pte)) {
>       [not executed]
>     }
>   }
> 
>   [at this point, a concurrent THP collapse operation detaches the page table]
>   // vmf->pte now points into a detached page table
> 
>   if (!vmf->pte)
>     [not executed]
> 
>   if (!pte_present(vmf->orig_pte))
>     [not executed]
> 
>   if (pte_protnone(vmf->orig_pte) && vma_is_accessible(vmf->vma))
>     [not executed]
> 
>   spin_lock(vmf->ptl);
>   entry = vmf->orig_pte;
>   // vmf->pte still points into a detached page table
>   if (unlikely(!pte_same(*vmf->pte, entry))) {
>     update_mmu_tlb(vmf->vma, vmf->address, vmf->pte);
>     goto unlock;
>   }
>   [...]
> }

      reply	other threads:[~2023-06-06  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-29  6:11 [PATCH 00/12] mm: free retracted page table by RCU Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29  6:14 ` [PATCH 01/12] mm/pgtable: add rcu_read_lock() and rcu_read_unlock()s Hugh Dickins
2023-05-31 17:06   ` Jann Horn
2023-06-02  2:50     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-02 14:21       ` Jann Horn
2023-05-29  6:16 ` [PATCH 02/12] mm/pgtable: add PAE safety to __pte_offset_map() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 13:56   ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]   ` <ZHeg3oRljRn6wlLX@ziepe.ca>
2023-06-02  5:35     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29  6:17 ` [PATCH 03/12] arm: adjust_pte() use pte_offset_map_nolock() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29  6:18 ` [PATCH 04/12] powerpc: assert_pte_locked() " Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29  6:20 ` [PATCH 05/12] powerpc: add pte_free_defer() for pgtables sharing page Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 14:02   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-29 14:36     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-01 13:57       ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-02  6:38         ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-02 14:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-06  3:40       ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 18:23         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-06 19:03           ` Peter Xu
2023-06-06 19:08             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-07  3:49               ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29  6:21 ` [PATCH 06/12] sparc: " Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06  3:46   ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29  6:22 ` [PATCH 07/12] s390: add pte_free_defer(), with use of mmdrop_async() Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06  5:11   ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 18:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-08  2:46       ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 19:40     ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-08  3:35       ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-08 13:58         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-08 15:47         ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-05-29  6:23 ` [PATCH 08/12] mm/pgtable: add pte_free_defer() for pgtable as page Hugh Dickins
2023-06-01 13:31   ` Jann Horn
     [not found]   ` <ZHekpAKJ05cr/GLl@ziepe.ca>
2023-06-02  6:03     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-02 12:15       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-29  6:25 ` [PATCH 09/12] mm/khugepaged: retract_page_tables() without mmap or vma lock Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 23:26   ` Peter Xu
2023-05-31  0:38     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-31 15:34   ` Jann Horn
     [not found]     ` <ZHe0A079X9B8jWlH@x1n>
2023-05-31 22:18       ` Jann Horn
2023-06-01 14:06         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-06  6:18     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29  6:26 ` [PATCH 10/12] mm/khugepaged: collapse_pte_mapped_thp() with mmap_read_lock() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-31 17:25   ` Jann Horn
2023-06-02  5:11     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29  6:28 ` [PATCH 11/12] mm/khugepaged: delete khugepaged_collapse_pte_mapped_thps() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29  6:30 ` [PATCH 12/12] mm: delete mmap_write_trylock() and vma_try_start_write() Hugh Dickins
     [not found] ` <CAG48ez0pCqfRdVSnJz7EKtNvMR65=zJgVB-72nTdrNuhtJNX2Q@mail.gmail.com>
2023-06-02  4:37   ` [PATCH 00/12] mm: free retracted page table by RCU Hugh Dickins
2023-06-02 15:26     ` Jann Horn
2023-06-06  6:28       ` Hugh Dickins [this message]

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