Device trees and audio codecs

Device trees and audio codecs

[Jon Smirl]

I'm working on ALSA ASoC support for a codec chip on my mpc5200 based
target hardware. How should the codec be represented in the device
tree?

Under ASoC the device drivers for the codec chips are platform
independent.  In the current ASoC model there are three device
drivers: i2s (or spi, etc), the generic codec, and a platform specific
'fabric' driver.  Some codecs are linked to both i2c and i2s.

The fabric driver corresponds to the 'layout-id' in the Apple model.
It tells how to configure the generic codec driver for the specific
configuration needed by the actual platform hardware.

For development purposes I'm using an Efika as a target platform. It
is easy enough to load the i2s driver using the device tree. I can add
entries to the i2s node to trigger loading of the generic sta9766
codec driver. How do I trigger loading the Efika specific fabric
driver?

My target hardware has a codec that is linked to both i2s and i2c. How
should it be represented?

Apple has three entries. One for i2s, one for the codec, and one for
soundchip. What is the soundchip entry, does it correspond to real
hardware?

/proc/device-tree/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/i2s@0/i2s-a@10000:
name             "i2s-a"
device_type      "soundbus"
compatible       "i2sbus"
built-in
reg              00010000 00001000 00008000 00000100 00008100 00000100
interrupts       0000001e 00000001 00000001 00000000 00000002 00000000
interrupt-parent ff981a38
platform-headphone-mute ff9828a0
platform-amp-mute ff9829f8
platform-hw-reset ff982b48
platform-linein-detect ff982c98
platform-headphone-detect ff982e58
platform-get-enable ff97c3b0
platform-enable  ff97c3b0
platform-disable ff97c3b0
platform-get-clock-enable ff97c3b0
platform-clock-enable ff97c3b0
platform-clock-disable ff97c3b0
platform-get-sw-reset ff97c3b0
platform-clear-sw-reset ff97c3b0
platform-sw-reset ff97c3b0
platform-get-cell-enable ff97c3b0
platform-cell-enable ff97c3b0
platform-cell-disable ff97c3b0
linux,phandle    ff985b88

/proc/device-tree/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/i2s@0/i2s-a@10000/sound:
name             "sound"
device_type      "soundchip"
compatible       "AOAbase"
built-in
layout-id        00000046 (70)
object-model-version 00000002
vendor-id        0000106b (4203)
platform-tas-codec-ref ff98cba8
linux,phandle    ff985d48

/proc/device-tree/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/i2c@18000/i2c-bus@0/codec@6a:
name             "codec"
device_type      "codec"
compatible       "tas3004"
                 "codec"
                 ""
reg              0000006a (106)
built-in
platform-do-tas-codec-ref ff985d48 08000000 00000027
linux,phandle    ff98cba8


-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Timur Tabi]

Jon Smirl wrote:
> I'm working on ALSA ASoC support for a codec chip on my mpc5200 based
> target hardware. How should the codec be represented in the device
> tree?

I'm also working on an ASoC driver, but for the 8610.  I have a similar problem.

> Under ASoC the device drivers for the codec chips are platform
> independent.  In the current ASoC model there are three device
> drivers: i2s (or spi, etc), the generic codec, and a platform specific
> 'fabric' driver.  Some codecs are linked to both i2c and i2s.

Annoying, isn't it? :-)

You can use phandles to cross-reference nodes.  I suggest putting the codec 
node under the i2s node (and containing I2S-specific information), and then 
putting another codec node under the i2c node (this is a new layout proposed 
by Scott Wood), and use a phandle to let the i2s-codec node point to the 
i2c-codec node.

> The fabric driver corresponds to the 'layout-id' in the Apple model.
> It tells how to configure the generic codec driver for the specific
> configuration needed by the actual platform hardware.
> 
> For development purposes I'm using an Efika as a target platform. It
> is easy enough to load the i2s driver using the device tree. I can add
> entries to the i2s node to trigger loading of the generic sta9766
> codec driver. How do I trigger loading the Efika specific fabric
> driver?

You don't need a device tree entry to trigger loading a driver.  You can just 
load the driver and initialize it in its __init function.

However, in this case, you might want to do what I'm doing -- putting a probe 
function in the fabric driver for the i2s device (which gets its own node 
under the SOC node), and then in that probe function search for all the other 
nodes that you need.

> My target hardware has a codec that is linked to both i2s and i2c. How
> should it be represented?
> 
> Apple has three entries. One for i2s, one for the codec, and one for
> soundchip. What is the soundchip entry, does it correspond to real
> hardware?

Since the Apple audio drivers are not ASoC drivers, I suggest we don't pay 
attention to what they do.

-- 
Timur Tabi
Linux Kernel Developer @ Freescale

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Jon Smirl]

On 10/21/07, Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com> wrote:
> > For development purposes I'm using an Efika as a target platform. It
> > is easy enough to load the i2s driver using the device tree. I can add
> > entries to the i2s node to trigger loading of the generic sta9766
> > codec driver. How do I trigger loading the Efika specific fabric
> > driver?
>
> You don't need a device tree entry to trigger loading a driver.  You can just
> load the driver and initialize it in its __init function.
>
> However, in this case, you might want to do what I'm doing -- putting a probe
> function in the fabric driver for the i2s device (which gets its own node
> under the SOC node), and then in that probe function search for all the other
> nodes that you need.

Doing it that way will make the kernel specific to the target device.
Currently I can load the same mpc5200 kernel on several different
target devices since the platform specific code is triggered in the
probe machine phase.

I tried making the fabric driver into a platform driver instead of an
openfirmware driver, but the mpc5200 code is not initializing platform
drivers correctly.

I could insert calls into arch/powerpc/platforms/52xx/whatever to load
the specific asoc fabric, but doing that is a mess. There must be a
way to trigger loading of machine specific drivers

> Since the Apple audio drivers are not ASoC drivers, I suggest we don't pay
> attention to what they do.

Those Apple drivers are very similar to asoc drivers. They could
easily be folded into the asoc code.


-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Timur Tabi]

Jon Smirl wrote:

> Doing it that way will make the kernel specific to the target device.
> Currently I can load the same mpc5200 kernel on several different
> target devices since the platform specific code is triggered in the
> probe machine phase.

Maybe I need to take a look at your code, but the fabric driver is, in 
effect, a platform-specific driver.  Its job is to figure out what 
hardware is on the board, how it's connected, and then initialize and 
connect the other drivers as appropriate.

> I tried making the fabric driver into a platform driver instead of an
> openfirmware driver, but the mpc5200 code is not initializing platform
> drivers correctly.

Yeah, that wouldn't work.  Platform drivers are initialized way too early.

> I could insert calls into arch/powerpc/platforms/52xx/whatever to load
> the specific asoc fabric, but doing that is a mess. There must be a
> way to trigger loading of machine specific drivers

Either you do it at driver __init time, or via a probe.  The probe 
actually occurs at __init time, anyway, so they're kinda the same thing. 
  The only thing the probe gets you is that you're called multiple times 
for each instance of a node in the tree.

>> Since the Apple audio drivers are not ASoC drivers, I suggest we don't pay
>> attention to what they do.
> 
> Those Apple drivers are very similar to asoc drivers. They could
> easily be folded into the asoc code.

Perhaps, but that's a job for another day (and another developer).

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Scott Wood]

On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 08:07:14AM -0500, Timur Tabi wrote:
> Either you do it at driver __init time, or via a probe.  The probe 
> actually occurs at __init time, anyway, so they're kinda the same thing. 
>   The only thing the probe gets you is that you're called multiple times 
> for each instance of a node in the tree.

It also means that you're *not* called if there's no node in the tree at all
-- which I believe was Jon's point about being platform specific.

-Scott

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Segher Boessenkool]

> I'm working on ALSA ASoC support for a codec chip on my mpc5200 based
> target hardware.

What is ASoC?

> Under ASoC the device drivers for the codec chips are platform
> independent.  In the current ASoC model there are three device
> drivers: i2s (or spi, etc), the generic codec, and a platform specific
> 'fabric' driver.  Some codecs are linked to both i2c and i2s.

The i2s driver is simply for data transport, the codec driver does,
well, what codecs do; and what is the fabric driver for?  Just to
know which output ports are which, etc.?

> The fabric driver corresponds to the 'layout-id' in the Apple model.
> It tells how to configure the generic codec driver for the specific
> configuration needed by the actual platform hardware.

The apple layout-id selects one of several tables with *lots* of info.
I think you want a subset of that only.

> My target hardware has a codec that is linked to both i2s and i2c. How
> should it be represented?

Since the codec is addressable on i2c, and not on i2s, it should be
a child node of the i2c bus it sits on; and then you put a property
in the codec node pointing to the i2s bus node it is connected to.
Multiple of those (or multiple entries) if it is connected to more
than one i2s bus.  "i2s-parent" might be a good name for such a prop.

> Apple has three entries. One for i2s, one for the codec, and one for
> soundchip. What is the soundchip entry, does it correspond to real
> hardware?
>
> /proc/device-tree/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/i2s@0/i2s-a@10000:

This is one of the i2s channels on the macio.  Dunno why they put
all those platform-XXX entries in here, (most of) these don't
logically belong here.

> /proc/device-tree/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/i2s@0/i2s-a@10000/sound:

The codec.  I guess Apple puts this here for their weirdo platform-do
stuff; don't imitate this :-)

> /proc/device-tree/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/i2c@18000/i2c-bus@0/codec@6a:

The codec.  _Do_ put it here in your tree :-)


Segher

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Jon Smirl]

On 10/21/07, Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> > I'm working on ALSA ASoC support for a codec chip on my mpc5200 based
> > target hardware.
>
> What is ASoC?

asoc = ALSA System on a Chip. It is in sound/soc

> > Under ASoC the device drivers for the codec chips are platform
> > independent.  In the current ASoC model there are three device
> > drivers: i2s (or spi, etc), the generic codec, and a platform specific
> > 'fabric' driver.  Some codecs are linked to both i2c and i2s.
>
> The i2s driver is simply for data transport, the codec driver does,
> well, what codecs do; and what is the fabric driver for?  Just to
> know which output ports are which, etc.?

Fabric driver tells how the generic codec is hooked up on the specific
board. Some of the codecs are extremely flexible and can be hooked up
hundreds of different ways. It is like GPIO pins, they are wired in
however is convenient for the design.

> > The fabric driver corresponds to the 'layout-id' in the Apple model.
> > It tells how to configure the generic codec driver for the specific
> > configuration needed by the actual platform hardware.
>
> The apple layout-id selects one of several tables with *lots* of info.
> I think you want a subset of that only.

The fabric/layout-id stuff is platform specific.

> > My target hardware has a codec that is linked to both i2s and i2c. How
> > should it be represented?
>
> Since the codec is addressable on i2c, and not on i2s, it should be
> a child node of the i2c bus it sits on; and then you put a property
> in the codec node pointing to the i2s bus node it is connected to.
> Multiple of those (or multiple entries) if it is connected to more
> than one i2s bus.  "i2s-parent" might be a good name for such a prop.

How do we want to be consistent with the Efika which uses an AC97
codec that only connects to i2s?

> > Apple has three entries. One for i2s, one for the codec, and one for
> > soundchip. What is the soundchip entry, does it correspond to real
> > hardware?
> >
> > /proc/device-tree/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/i2s@0/i2s-a@10000:
>
> This is one of the i2s channels on the macio.  Dunno why they put
> all those platform-XXX entries in here, (most of) these don't
> logically belong here.

Actually those platform-XXX entries may be the solution I am looking
for. I can use the generic i2s driver to load a fabric driver as an
ALSA module.

> > /proc/device-tree/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/i2s@0/i2s-a@10000/sound:
>
> The codec.  I guess Apple puts this here for their weirdo platform-do
> stuff; don't imitate this :-)
>
> > /proc/device-tree/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/i2c@18000/i2c-bus@0/codec@6a:
>
> The codec.  _Do_ put it here in your tree :-)

-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Benjamin Herrenschmidt]

On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 17:33 -0400, Jon Smirl wrote:
> > This is one of the i2s channels on the macio.  Dunno why they put
> > all those platform-XXX entries in here, (most of) these don't
> > logically belong here.
> 
> Actually those platform-XXX entries may be the solution I am looking
> for. I can use the generic i2s driver to load a fabric driver as an
> ALSA module.

Yuck.

Ben.

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Jon Smirl]

On 10/21/07, Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 17:33 -0400, Jon Smirl wrote:
> > > This is one of the i2s channels on the macio.  Dunno why they put
> > > all those platform-XXX entries in here, (most of) these don't
> > > logically belong here.
> >
> > Actually those platform-XXX entries may be the solution I am looking
> > for. I can use the generic i2s driver to load a fabric driver as an
> > ALSA module.
>
> Yuck.

And your alternative is?

I can use the DTC to load the I2S and codec drivers.

How do I get the platform specific fabric driver loaded? There is no
way to load a driver matching on the platform name.

-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Benjamin Herrenschmidt]

On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 18:12 -0400, Jon Smirl wrote:
> On 10/21/07, Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 17:33 -0400, Jon Smirl wrote:
> > > > This is one of the i2s channels on the macio.  Dunno why they put
> > > > all those platform-XXX entries in here, (most of) these don't
> > > > logically belong here.
> > >
> > > Actually those platform-XXX entries may be the solution I am looking
> > > for. I can use the generic i2s driver to load a fabric driver as an
> > > ALSA module.
> >
> > Yuck.
> 
> And your alternative is?
> 
> I can use the DTC to load the I2S and codec drivers.
> 
> How do I get the platform specific fabric driver loaded? There is no
> way to load a driver matching on the platform name.

platform-do-XXX is unrelated to that. It's a kind of script in a blob
that is used to toggle various bits, it's plain ugly, totally powermac
specific (the code to handle it is in platform/powermac and I won't make
it generic) and so you don't want it... ever.

For your problem, an option is to do like apple, and have a "sound"
pseudo device which represents the "sound subsystem" of the machine
which cn ahave a compatible property and other bits that you can use to
match your fabric against, and loads the other bits & pieces.

Except that I would put it at the root of the tree.

Ben.

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Segher Boessenkool]

> Fabric driver tells how the generic codec is hooked up on the specific
> board. Some of the codecs are extremely flexible and can be hooked up
> hundreds of different ways. It is like GPIO pins, they are wired in
> however is convenient for the design.

Gotcha.  *Very* much like GPIOs, indeed.

>>> The fabric driver corresponds to the 'layout-id' in the Apple model.
>>> It tells how to configure the generic codec driver for the specific
>>> configuration needed by the actual platform hardware.
>>
>> The apple layout-id selects one of several tables with *lots* of info.
>> I think you want a subset of that only.
>
> The fabric/layout-id stuff is platform specific.

I mean that Apple's layout-id abstraction is "bigger" than your fabric
abstraction seems to be.  Not too important a point, anyway.

>>> My target hardware has a codec that is linked to both i2s and i2c. 
>>> How
>>> should it be represented?
>>
>> Since the codec is addressable on i2c, and not on i2s, it should be
>> a child node of the i2c bus it sits on; and then you put a property
>> in the codec node pointing to the i2s bus node it is connected to.
>> Multiple of those (or multiple entries) if it is connected to more
>> than one i2s bus.  "i2s-parent" might be a good name for such a prop.
>
> How do we want to be consistent with the Efika which uses an AC97
> codec that only connects to i2s?

Huh?  AC'97 isn't I2S.  Yeah you probably could hook it up to some I2S
device if you do all the interleaving and whatever stuff by hand -- but
then you probably shouldn't call the I2S "host" an I2S anymore, but name
it "ac97" in the device tree, or "this-or-that-i2s-controller-hooked-up-
in-this-particular-crazy-way".  You will want to know which driver to
use for the device, and if it's hooked up in "strange and unforeseen"
ways you want to know about it.

Maybe the platform code should do this, dunno.

_Please_ don't name busses that are not plain I2S "i2s" in the device
tree.  At best this means you'll need a quirk in the kernel code to deal
with this later.

</rant>


So anyway, why is it inconsistent to have an audio codec that is 
configured
over i2c sit on that i2c bus in the device tree as well, and refer to 
the i2s
bus it pumps audio data over; vs. having an ac97 codec that sits on an 
ac97
bus sit on that ac97 bus in the device tree as well?  In both cases, the
device is a child of the bus via which it is addressed.

The one exceptional case would be a dumb codec that isn't addressable 
at all;
it would be a device tree child of the dumb transport bus (where else 
could
it be put)?

> Actually those platform-XXX entries may be the solution I am looking
> for.

Like Ben already said, no you _do not_ want the platform-do stuff.  
Trust
him on this.  Or if you're feeling brave, look at the existing kernel 
code
that handles some of it ;-P


Segher

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Jon Smirl]

On 10/21/07, Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> > How do we want to be consistent with the Efika which uses an AC97
> > codec that only connects to i2s?
>
> Huh?  AC'97 isn't I2S.  Yeah you probably could hook it up to some I2S
> device if you do all the interleaving and whatever stuff by hand -- but
> then you probably shouldn't call the I2S "host" an I2S anymore, but name
> it "ac97" in the device tree, or "this-or-that-i2s-controller-hooked-up-
> in-this-particular-crazy-way".  You will want to know which driver to
> use for the device, and if it's hooked up in "strange and unforeseen"
> ways you want to know about it.

I meant an ac97 bus. ac97 is conceptually the same as i2s with the
control signals also routed over it. ac97 and i2s are handled in the
same PSC on the 5200.

I have received conflicting opinions as to whether a codec hooked to
an ac97 bus should get a chip specific codec entry in the device tree.
Without the codec specific entry only generic ac97 features can be
used. The Efika has a STA9766. Looking at the data sheet for the chip
I see that it implements some proprietary functions in addition to the
standard ones.

asoc has a generic ac97 driver. Should the ac97 bus be required to
have a entry for the generic ac97 device? It would make loading the
driver much easier.


> _Please_ don't name busses that are not plain I2S "i2s" in the device
> tree.  At best this means you'll need a quirk in the kernel code to deal
> with this later.

the i2s and ac97 drivers for the mpc5200 already exist. I'm using
these preexisting drivers.


-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Timur Tabi]

Jon Smirl wrote:

> I meant an ac97 bus. ac97 is conceptually the same as i2s with the
> control signals also routed over it. ac97 and i2s are handled in the
> same PSC on the 5200.
> 
> I have received conflicting opinions as to whether a codec hooked to
> an ac97 bus should get a chip specific codec entry in the device tree.

I think it should.  For one thing, ASoC requires a pointer to a structure in the 
codec device driver so that it knows which functions to call to change volume. 
What if you have multiple i2s/ac97 devices and multiple codecs?  You'll need to 
know which i2s device is connected to which codec.  The only way to distinguish 
that is by having a node for the codec under the i2s node.

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Segher Boessenkool]

It seems to me there are four issues here:

1) How to describe the audio transport controller;
2) How to describe the codecs;
3) How the various parts are connected together in the device tree;
4) How to describe the "layout".

>>> How do we want to be consistent with the Efika which uses an AC97
>>> codec that only connects to i2s?
>>
>> Huh?  AC'97 isn't I2S.  Yeah you probably could hook it up to some I2S
>> device if you do all the interleaving and whatever stuff by hand -- 
>> but
>> then you probably shouldn't call the I2S "host" an I2S anymore, but 
>> name
>> it "ac97" in the device tree, or 
>> "this-or-that-i2s-controller-hooked-up-
>> in-this-particular-crazy-way".  You will want to know which driver to
>> use for the device, and if it's hooked up in "strange and unforeseen"
>> ways you want to know about it.
>
> I meant an ac97 bus. ac97 is conceptually the same as i2s with the
> control signals also routed over it. ac97 and i2s are handled in the
> same PSC on the 5200.

Okay.  On any specific board, there can _only_ be ac97 or _only_ i2s
codecs hooked onto the bus; the device node for the PSC should say
which it is, either by having different "compatible" entries for the
different modes, or by having some device-specific property in there
saying which it is.  Ideally, the name of the node would be "i2s" resp.
"ac97" as well.

This handles 1).

> I have received conflicting opinions as to whether a codec hooked to
> an ac97 bus should get a chip specific codec entry in the device tree.

Every codec gets its own device node, and its "compatible" entry 
describes
it uniquely.  This is a very basic property of device trees.

This handles 2).

> Without the codec specific entry only generic ac97 features can be
> used. The Efika has a STA9766. Looking at the data sheet for the chip
> I see that it implements some proprietary functions in addition to the
> standard ones.
>
> asoc has a generic ac97 driver. Should the ac97 bus be required to
> have a entry for the generic ac97 device? It would make loading the
> driver much easier.

If the kernel driver does _not_ recognise the codec in the device tree,
it could use a "generic" ac97 codec driver, if such a thing indeed 
exists.
If on the other hand it knows about the specific codec, it can use a 
chip-
specific driver.

AC'97 codecs are addressed over the AC'97 bus, so the codecs should be
children of the ac97 bus in the device tree, and have fully qualified
names like "audio@0" or "modem@1" etc.  I2S codecs that are addressed
(== its configuration registers written) over I2C should be children of
their I2C bus in the device tree, with fully qualified names like
"audio@6c"; they should show which I2S bus they sit on, for example by
having an "i2s-bus" property (containing the phandle of the i2s bus) in
the codec node.

This is 3).


Now for 4), the layout thing; you could try to describe the layout in
the device tree, but that would probably fail; there just is too much
variance.  If I understand you correctly, you have a platform-specific
layout driver; now you need to find a nice way to probe this from the
device tree.  Maybe you should just look at the properties in the root
node of the device tree for this.

>> _Please_ don't name busses that are not plain I2S "i2s" in the device
>> tree.  At best this means you'll need a quirk in the kernel code to 
>> deal
>> with this later.
>
> the i2s and ac97 drivers for the mpc5200 already exist. I'm using
> these preexisting drivers.

Sure, but that doesn't mean you cannot fix the way things are probed in
those drivers.  Bugs are there to fix ;-)


Segher

Re: Device trees and audio codecs

[Grant Likely]

On 10/21/07, Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have received conflicting opinions as to whether a codec hooked to
> an ac97 bus should get a chip specific codec entry in the device tree.
> Without the codec specific entry only generic ac97 features can be
> used. The Efika has a STA9766. Looking at the data sheet for the chip
> I see that it implements some proprietary functions in addition to the
> standard ones.

You definitely want the codec node on the control bus.  This is
analogous to how Ethernet PHYs are handled.  The PHY nodes are
children of an MDIO node (because that's the control path).  The
ethernet MAC node contains a phandle to the PHY.

In I2S/I2C terms, the CODEC ~= MAC, I2C ~= MDIO and I2S ~= MAC.

In AC97 terms this analogy doesn't work because AC97 doesn't separate
the control and data interfaces.  An AC97 codec is simply a child of
an AC97 controller.

For the MPC5200; the device tree should reflect the required mode.  If
the PSC needs to be in AC97 mode, then the device tree should say
compatible = "fsl,mpc5200b-psc-ac97".  If the PSC needs to be in I2C
mode, then it should be compatible = "fsl,mpc5200b-psc-i2s".  For the
5200 PSCs, the device node not only reflects the hardware (a PSC
core), but also reflects the schematic design (it is wired either as
an I2S bus or an AC97 bus).

Cheers,
g.

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Grant Likely, B.Sc., P.Eng.
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