From: "Jon Smirl" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: "Jean Delvare" <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
i2c@lm-sensors.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] Implement module aliasing for i2c to translate from device tree names
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:01:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e4733910801131001o604c1474vc2fd021d32b8c2a3@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080113184017.7e3b409f@hyperion.delvare>
On 1/13/08, Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:24:29 -0500, Jon Smirl wrote:
> > On 1/13/08, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:26:34 -0500, Jon Smirl wrote:
> > > > IMHO, driver_name/type should be removed in new style drivers and
> > > > replaced with aliases on all platforms since aliases are the standard
> > > > kernel mechanism.
> > >
> > > I agree. But we can take your aliasing code now (once you have
> > > addressed the issues I raised) and convert the users of driver_name
> > > later; it doesn't have to be done all at once.
> >
> > GregKH, adding a new dynamically loadable subsystem is not something
> > that happens every day, can you check to make sure all of the standard
> > kernels mechanisms are being used? I'm not totally sure how the
> > modalias naming code is supposed to be done. The subsystem core code
> > in these patches needs review.
> >
> > Jean, could you take over the i2c core portion of the patch? That will
> > let you decide exactly how you want the driver_name/name fields to be
> > dealt with. After you get standard naming support into i2c core I'll
> > rework the rest of the patch to use your new code.
>
> Yes, that could be done, and I agree that it will probably be faster
> than iterative review/rework cycles between you and me. I'll free some
> cycles next week for that.
>
> > I don't think driver_name/name fields should be stored in an i2c
> > structure at all. They are redundant with the standard mechanism.
> >
> > The kernel automatically exposes modalias as a sysfs attribute so the
> > string must be recorded further down in the driver support layers. No
> > need to keep a copy in the i2c structure.
>
> Really? I didn't know that. So that's another thing that the i2c
> subsystem is not doing like the rest of the kernel? Can you please
> point me to the code that does this?
I never noticed it before either. Just do find | grep modalias in /sys
and see that every driver has a modalias attribute. It is probably
implement in drivers/base.
>
> > Standard devices don't export a 'name' attribute. To see the driver
> > name for a device in sysfs look at the 'driver' link.
>
> The driver name and the device name are different things! The "name"
> attribute that i2c devices have tells user-space the device name, not
> the driver name.
For this system my i2c device names are:
0-0050 0-0051 0-0052 0-0053
How does the name=eeprom attribute interact with this? All four of my
devices have name=eeprom. What is the name field used for in user
space?
jonsmirl@terra:/sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0052$ ls
driver eeprom modalias name power subsystem uevent
jonsmirl@terra:/sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0052$ cat name
eeprom
jonsmirl@terra:/sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0052$ ls driver -l
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2008-01-13 12:46 driver ->
../../../../../../bus/i2c/drivers/eeprom
jonsmirl@terra:/sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0052$
jonsmirl@terra:/sys/bus/i2c/drivers$ ls
eeprom
jonsmirl@terra:/sys/bus/i2c/drivers$ ls eeprom
0-0050 0-0051 0-0052 0-0053 bind module uevent unbind
>
> You may not like what the i2c subsystem does but you can't ignore its
> history. The name attribute of i2c devices has been there pretty much
> forever and user-space relies on it, thus we can't remove it.
>
> --
> Jean Delvare
>
--
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-13 18:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-20 4:41 [PATCH 0/5] Version 17, series to add device tree naming to i2c Jon Smirl
2007-12-20 4:41 ` [PATCH 1/5] Implement module aliasing for i2c to translate from device tree names Jon Smirl
2008-01-11 19:20 ` [i2c] " Jean Delvare
2008-01-12 8:46 ` Jean Delvare
2008-01-12 16:26 ` Jon Smirl
2008-01-13 14:41 ` Jean Delvare
2008-01-13 16:24 ` Jon Smirl
2008-01-13 17:40 ` Jean Delvare
2008-01-13 18:01 ` Jon Smirl [this message]
2008-01-13 18:45 ` Jean Delvare
2008-01-13 18:50 ` Jon Smirl
2008-01-13 19:05 ` Jean Delvare
2007-12-20 4:41 ` [PATCH 2/5] Modify several rtc drivers to use the alias names list property of i2c Jon Smirl
2007-12-20 4:41 ` [PATCH 3/5] Clean up error returns Jon Smirl
2007-12-20 4:41 ` [PATCH 4/5] Convert PowerPC MPC i2c to of_platform_driver from platform_driver Jon Smirl
2007-12-20 5:16 ` David Gibson
2007-12-20 6:01 ` Olof Johansson
2007-12-20 6:04 ` Stefan Roese
2007-12-20 15:56 ` Jon Smirl
2008-01-02 19:41 ` Jochen Friedrich
2008-01-02 19:49 ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-20 4:41 ` [PATCH 5/5] Convert pfc8563 i2c driver from old style to new style Jon Smirl
2007-12-20 23:59 ` [PATCH 0/5] Version 17, series to add device tree naming to i2c Jon Smirl
2007-12-27 16:47 ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-28 12:14 ` Jean Delvare
2008-01-10 14:14 ` Jon Smirl
2008-01-10 16:14 ` Jean Delvare
2008-01-11 8:56 ` [i2c] " Jean Delvare
2008-01-11 15:52 ` Jon Smirl
2008-01-11 16:05 ` Jochen Friedrich
2008-01-11 19:15 ` Jean Delvare
2008-01-11 20:16 ` Jon Smirl
2008-01-12 9:08 ` Jean Delvare
2008-01-12 16:00 ` Jon Smirl
2008-01-13 15:09 ` Jean Delvare
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-12-10 18:33 [PATCH 0/5] Series " Jon Smirl
2007-12-10 18:33 ` [PATCH 1/5] Implement module aliasing for i2c to translate from device tree names Jon Smirl
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