From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gate.crashing.org (gate.crashing.org [63.228.1.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97736DDFCE for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:56:14 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: From: Kumar Gala To: Timur Tabi In-Reply-To: <49EF9019.7000102@freescale.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: removing get_immrbase()?? Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:54:07 -0500 References: <49EF7B11.2000006@freescale.com> <49EF7B1C.2080105@freescale.com> <282847E1-AE1A-44EF-9D18-AF2884105FA5@kernel.crashing.org> <49EF8D42.7010104@freescale.com> <49EF9019.7000102@freescale.com> Cc: Scott Wood , Linuxppc-dev Development List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Apr 22, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Timur Tabi wrote: > Kumar Gala wrote: > >> The specific issue I'm talking about is the addition of new nodes >> that >> might break old device trees. > > New nodes or new properties? The CPM nodes are not new. On some > device > trees, the original versions did not have a compatible property for > the > CPM nodes (e.g. commit 0b5cf10691eb2c95a9126bf25f5e084d83d5d743). > Therefore, there are device trees out there that are missing some > property. > > Like I said earlier, if you can demonstrate that *all* of these device > tree would be broken with the latest kernel anyway, then we don't need > to worry about backwards compatibility. > > I'm tired of debugging customer issues where the kernel is updated but > the firmware and device tree aren't. IMHO, Kernel developers are > generally too lax when it comes to firmware and device tree backwards > compatibility, and I think that's wrong. New nodes. For example I've proposed a "local access window" node. Once I add it I plan on changing code to use it. This will break an old device tree booting with the new kernel and I'm completely ok with that. - k