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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH RESEND 00/28] per-VMA locks proposal
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 19:28:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpEcTv5crNumhMTCf2yAJ5+86ph78-B+eyk_N84Ce=nr5w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b5db3353-8aae-22d8-9598-eaa5eeb77cfc@suse.cz>

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 2:35 AM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> On 9/2/22 01:26, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 1:58 PM Kent Overstreet
> > <kent.overstreet@linux.dev> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 10:34:48AM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> >> > Resending to fix the issue with the In-Reply-To tag in the original
> >> > submission at [4].
> >> >
> >> > This is a proof of concept for per-vma locks idea that was discussed
> >> > during SPF [1] discussion at LSF/MM this year [2], which concluded with
> >> > suggestion that “a reader/writer semaphore could be put into the VMA
> >> > itself; that would have the effect of using the VMA as a sort of range
> >> > lock. There would still be contention at the VMA level, but it would be an
> >> > improvement.” This patchset implements this suggested approach.
> >> >
> >> > When handling page faults we lookup the VMA that contains the faulting
> >> > page under RCU protection and try to acquire its lock. If that fails we
> >> > fall back to using mmap_lock, similar to how SPF handled this situation.
> >> >
> >> > One notable way the implementation deviates from the proposal is the way
> >> > VMAs are marked as locked. Because during some of mm updates multiple
> >> > VMAs need to be locked until the end of the update (e.g. vma_merge,
> >> > split_vma, etc). Tracking all the locked VMAs, avoiding recursive locks
> >> > and other complications would make the code more complex. Therefore we
> >> > provide a way to "mark" VMAs as locked and then unmark all locked VMAs
> >> > all at once. This is done using two sequence numbers - one in the
> >> > vm_area_struct and one in the mm_struct. VMA is considered locked when
> >> > these sequence numbers are equal. To mark a VMA as locked we set the
> >> > sequence number in vm_area_struct to be equal to the sequence number
> >> > in mm_struct. To unlock all VMAs we increment mm_struct's seq number.
> >> > This allows for an efficient way to track locked VMAs and to drop the
> >> > locks on all VMAs at the end of the update.
> >>
> >> I like it - the sequence numbers are a stroke of genuius. For what it's doing
> >> the patchset seems almost small.
> >
> > Thanks for reviewing it!
> >
> >>
> >> Two complaints so far:
> >>  - I don't like the vma_mark_locked() name. To me it says that the caller
> >>    already took or is taking the lock and this function is just marking that
> >>    we're holding the lock, but it's really taking a different type of lock. But
> >>    this function can block, it really is taking a lock, so it should say that.
> >>
> >>    This is AFAIK a new concept, not sure I'm going to have anything good either,
> >>    but perhaps vma_lock_multiple()?
> >
> > I'm open to name suggestions but vma_lock_multiple() is a bit
> > confusing to me. Will wait for more suggestions.
>
> Well, it does act like a vma_write_lock(), no? So why not that name. The
> checking function for it is even called vma_assert_write_locked().
>
> We just don't provide a single vma_write_unlock(), but a
> vma_mark_unlocked_all(), that could be instead named e.g.
> vma_write_unlock_all().
> But it's called on a mm, so maybe e.g. mm_vma_write_unlock_all()?

Thank you for your suggestions, Vlastimil! vma_write_lock() sounds
good to me. For vma_mark_unlocked_all() replacement, I would prefer
vma_write_unlock_all() which keeps the vma_write_XXX naming pattern to
indicate that these are operating on the same locks. If the fact that
it accepts mm_struct as a parameter is an issue then maybe
vma_write_unlock_mm() ?

>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-28  2:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-01 17:34 [RFC PATCH RESEND 00/28] per-VMA locks proposal Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 01/28] mm: introduce CONFIG_PER_VMA_LOCK Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 02/28] mm: rcu safe VMA freeing Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 03/28] mm: introduce __find_vma to be used without mmap_lock protection Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 20:22   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 23:18     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 04/28] mm: move mmap_lock assert function definitions Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 20:24   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 20:51     ` Liam Howlett
2022-09-01 23:21       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-02  6:23     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-09-02 17:46       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 05/28] mm: add per-VMA lock and helper functions to control it Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-06 13:46   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-06 17:24     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 06/28] mm: mark VMA as locked whenever vma->vm_flags are modified Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-06 14:26   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-06 19:00     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-06 20:00       ` Liam Howlett
2022-09-06 20:13         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 07/28] kernel/fork: mark VMAs as locked before copying pages during fork Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-06 14:37   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-08 23:57     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 13:27       ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-09 16:29         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 08/28] mm/khugepaged: mark VMA as locked while collapsing a hugepage Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-06 14:43   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-09  0:15     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 09/28] mm/mempolicy: mark VMA as locked when changing protection policy Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-06 14:47   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-09  0:27     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 10/28] mm/mmap: mark VMAs as locked in vma_adjust Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-06 15:35   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-09  0:51     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 15:52       ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-01 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 11/28] mm/mmap: mark VMAs as locked before merging or splitting them Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-06 15:44   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 12/28] mm/mremap: mark VMA as locked while remapping it to a new address range Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-06 16:09   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 13/28] mm: conditionally mark VMA as locked in free_pgtables and unmap_page_range Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 10:33   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-09 16:43     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 14/28] mm: mark VMAs as locked before isolating them Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 13:35   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-09 16:28     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 15/28] mm/mmap: mark adjacent VMAs as locked if they can grow into unmapped area Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 13:43   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-09 16:25     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 16/28] kernel/fork: assert no VMA readers during its destruction Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 13:56   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-09 16:19     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 17/28] mm/mmap: prevent pagefault handler from racing with mmu_notifier registration Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 14:20   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-09 16:12     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 18/28] mm: add FAULT_FLAG_VMA_LOCK flag Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 14:26   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 19/28] mm: disallow do_swap_page to handle page faults under VMA lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-06 19:39   ` Peter Xu
2022-09-06 20:08     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-06 20:22       ` Peter Xu
2022-09-07  0:58         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 14:26   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 20/28] mm: introduce per-VMA lock statistics Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 14:28   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-09 16:11     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 21/28] mm: introduce find_and_lock_anon_vma to be used from arch-specific code Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 14:38   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-09 16:10     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 22/28] x86/mm: try VMA lock-based page fault handling first Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 23/28] x86/mm: define ARCH_SUPPORTS_PER_VMA_LOCK Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 20:20   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 23:17     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 24/28] arm64/mm: try VMA lock-based page fault handling first Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 25/28] arm64/mm: define ARCH_SUPPORTS_PER_VMA_LOCK Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 26/28] powerc/mm: try VMA lock-based page fault handling first Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 27/28] powerpc/mm: define ARCH_SUPPORTS_PER_VMA_LOCK Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 28/28] kernel/fork: throttle call_rcu() calls in vm_area_free Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 15:19   ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-09 16:02     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-09 16:14       ` Laurent Dufour
2022-09-01 20:58 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 00/28] per-VMA locks proposal Kent Overstreet
2022-09-01 23:26   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-11  9:35     ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-09-28  2:28       ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2022-09-29 11:18         ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-09-02  7:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-02 14:45   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-05 12:32 ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-05 18:32   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-09-05 20:35     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-09-06 15:46       ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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