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From: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: "Dan Li" <ashimida@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Heiko Stuebner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Guo Ren" <guoren@kernel.org>,
	"Alexander Gordeev" <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Javier Martinez Canillas" <javierm@redhat.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
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	"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
	"Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Andrey Konovalov" <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
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	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Luis Chamberlain" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
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	"Wu Caize" <zepan@sipeed.com>,
	"Paul Mackerras" <paulus@samba.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"Luis Machado" <luis.machado@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kprobes: Enable tracing for mololithic kernel images
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2022 11:20:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPhsuW6BzUtqnjvaGJScXRpghs0_V_phpdyd4_oAKhvmkX-GFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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masahiroy@kernel.org>, Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@profian.com>, Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>, "Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>, Marco Elver <elver@google.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>, "Russell King \(Oracle\)" <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Alexander Egorenkov <egorenar@linux.ibm.com>, Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>, Parisc List <linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org>, Nathaniel McCallum <nathaniel@profian.com>, Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>, Tobias Huschle <huschle@linux.ibm.com>, "Peter Zijlstra \(Intel\)" <peterz@infradead.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, sparclinux <sparclinux@vger.kernel.org>, Tiezhu Yang <yangtiezhu@loongson.cn>, Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>, Chen Zhongjin <chenzhon
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On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 9:12 AM Song Liu <song@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 7:21 AM Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jarkko,
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 08:25:38 +0300
> > Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2022 at 10:35:42AM +0800, Guo Ren wrote:
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 8:02 AM Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@profian.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Tracing with kprobes while running a monolithic kernel is currently
> > > > > impossible because CONFIG_KPROBES is dependent of CONFIG_MODULES.  This
> > > > > dependency is a result of kprobes code using the module allocator for the
> > > > > trampoline code.
> > > > >
> > > > > Detaching kprobes from modules helps to squeeze down the user space,
> > > > > e.g. when developing new core kernel features, while still having all
> > > > > the nice tracing capabilities.
> > > > >
> > > > > For kernel/ and arch/*, move module_alloc() and module_memfree() to
> > > > > module_alloc.c, and compile as part of vmlinux when either CONFIG_MODULES
> > > > > or CONFIG_KPROBES is enabled.  In addition, flag kernel module specific
> > > > > code with CONFIG_MODULES.
> > > > >
> > > > > As the result, kprobes can be used with a monolithic kernel.
> > > > It's strange when MODULES is n, but vmlinux still obtains module_alloc.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe we need a kprobe_alloc, right?
> > >
> > > Perhaps not the best name but at least it documents the fact that
> > > they use the same allocator.
> > >
> > > Few years ago I carved up something "half-way there" for kprobes,
> > > and I used the name text_alloc() [*].
> > >
> > > [*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20200724050553.1724168-1-jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com/
> >
> > Yeah, I remember that. Thank you for updating your patch!
> > I think the idea (split module_alloc() from CONFIG_MODULE) is good to me.
> > If module support maintainers think this name is not good, you may be
> > able to rename it as text_alloc() and make the module_alloc() as a
> > wrapper of it.
>
> IIUC, most users of module_alloc() use it to allocate memory for text, except
> that module code uses it for both text and data. Therefore, I guess calling it
> text_alloc() is not 100% accurate until we change the module code (to use
> a different API to allocate memory for data).

Git history showed me

7a0e27b2a0ce mm: remove vmalloc_exec

I guess we are somehow going back in time...

Song

>
> Thanks,
> Song
>
> >
> > Acked-by: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
> > for kprobe side.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > --
> > Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-09  0:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-07 23:59 [PATCH] kprobes: Enable tracing for mololithic kernel images Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-08  2:35 ` Guo Ren
2022-06-08  5:25   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-08 14:21     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2022-06-08 16:12       ` Song Liu
2022-06-08 18:20         ` Song Liu [this message]
2022-06-08 20:26           ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-06-09  3:48             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-09 13:24               ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-06-09 18:41                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-06-09 22:48                   ` Song Liu
2022-06-14 12:32                   ` jarkko
2022-06-15  6:37                     ` hch
2022-06-15 21:29                       ` jarkko
2022-06-09  8:33         ` Christophe Leroy
2022-06-09 22:23           ` Song Liu
2022-06-09 13:12         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09 13:23           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-06-12 12:18             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2022-06-12 15:59               ` Christophe Leroy
2022-06-13  0:01                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2022-06-14 10:54             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09 12:59       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-08 16:27 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-06-08 18:19   ` Song Liu
2022-06-12 12:30     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2022-06-14 12:30       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09  5:37   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09  7:47 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-06-09 11:48   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09 13:44   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-06-14 12:26     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-14 12:36       ` Christophe Leroy
2022-06-15 21:24         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09  8:30 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-06-09 12:57   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09 13:42     ` Christophe Leroy

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