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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: "Timothy A. Seufert" <tas@mindspring.com>
Cc: Neil Russell <caret@c-side.com>,
	David Riley <oscar@the-rileys.net>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: PPC byte ordering
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:18:11 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10010301315510.413-100000@cassiopeia.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <v04220803b622eb4a1108@[10.0.0.42]>


On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Timothy A. Seufert wrote:
> At 5:24 PM -0700 10/28/00, Neil Russell wrote:
> >It would in theory be possible to have the kernel run big-endian as it is
> >and have certain user programs run little endian by setting the LE bit in
> >the MSR register for the process in question.  The real problem here is
> >that you have to add a *lot* of code to system calls to make this work.
> >There are a few system calls that this would be real difficult, such
> >as ioctl().  I once looked into doing this for the MIPS with SVR4 UNIX.
>
> The other real problem is that Linus Torvalds has already said that
> he will never ever in a million years accept a patch which attempts
> to do such a thing, so you'd have to fork the kernel to do it.
> According to Linus, architectures are either big or little-endian,
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> not both.  A sane position considering the syscall ugliness you
  ^^^^^^^^^
> mention...

Really? Or did he mean: big-endian kernels must not run little-endian binaries
and vice versa.

Note that there exist 3 flavors of MIPS: 32-bit big-endian, 32-bit
little-endian and 64-bit. Linux supports them all. Expect to upgrade the hard
drives on your local Debian mirror soon :-)

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
							    -- Linus Torvalds


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-10-30 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-28 20:50 PPC byte ordering David Riley
2000-10-29  0:24 ` Neil Russell
2000-10-30  9:12   ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-07-19 13:59     ` Heiko Jakob
2000-10-30 12:50       ` Gabriel Paubert
2000-10-30 12:18     ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2000-10-31 11:23       ` Timothy A. Seufert

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