Re: [PATCH] cpuidle/pseries: Fixup CEDE0 latency only for POWER10 onwards

[Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.ibm.com>]

* Michal Such?nek <msuchanek@suse.de> [2021-04-23 20:42:16]:

> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 11:59:30PM +0530, Vaidyanathan Srinivasan wrote:
> > * Michal Such?nek <msuchanek@suse.de> [2021-04-23 19:45:05]:
> > 
> > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 09:29:39PM +0530, Vaidyanathan Srinivasan wrote:
> > > > * Michal Such?nek <msuchanek@suse.de> [2021-04-23 09:35:51]:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 08:37:29PM +0530, Gautham R. Shenoy wrote:
> > > > > > From: "Gautham R. Shenoy" <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Commit d947fb4c965c ("cpuidle: pseries: Fixup exit latency for
> > > > > > CEDE(0)") sets the exit latency of CEDE(0) based on the latency values
> > > > > > of the Extended CEDE states advertised by the platform
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On some of the POWER9 LPARs, the older firmwares advertise a very low
> > > > > > value of 2us for CEDE1 exit latency on a Dedicated LPAR. However the
> > > > > Can you be more specific about 'older firmwares'?
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Michal,
> > > > 
> > > > This is POWER9 vs POWER10 difference, not really an obsolete FW.  The
> > > > key idea behind the original patch was to make the H_CEDE latency and
> > > > hence target residency come from firmware instead of being decided by
> > > > the kernel.  The advantage is such that, different type of systems in
> > > > POWER10 generation can adjust this value and have an optimal H_CEDE
> > > > entry criteria which balances good single thread performance and
> > > > wakeup latency.  Further we can have additional H_CEDE state to feed
> > > > into the cpuidle.  
> > > 
> > > So all POWER9 machines are affected by the firmware bug where firmware
> > > reports CEDE1 exit latency of 2us and the real latency is 5us which
> > > causes the kernel to prefer CEDE1 too much when relying on the values
> > > supplied by the firmware. It is not about 'older firmware'.
> > 
> > Correct.  All POWER9 systems running Linux as guest LPARs will see
> > extra usage of CEDE idle state, but not baremetal (PowerNV).
> > 
> > The correct definition of the bug or miss-match in expectation is that
> > firmware reports wakeup latency from a core/thread wakeup timing, but
> > not end-to-end time from sending a wakeup event like an IPI using
> > H_calls and receiving the events on the target.  Practically there are
> > few extra micro-seconds needed after deciding to wakeup a target
> > core/thread to getting the target to start executing instructions
> > within the LPAR instance.
> 
> Thanks for the detailed explanation.
> 
> Maybe just adding a few microseconds to the reported time would be a
> more reasonable workaround than using a blanket fixed value then.

Yes, that is an option.  But that may only reduce the difference
between existing kernel and new kernel unless we make it the same
number.  Further we are fixing this in P10 and hence we will have to
add "if(P9) do the compensation" and otherwise take it as is.  That
would not be elegant.  Given that our goal for P9 platform is to not
introduce changes in H_CEDE entry behaviour, we arrived at this
approach (this small patch) and this also makes it easy to backport to
various distro products.

Thanks,
Vaidy