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From: 'Sebastian Andrzej Siewior' <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: Tyrel Datwyler <tyreld@linux.ibm.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"martin.petersen@oracle.com" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	"ejb@linux.ibm.com" <ejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] scsi/ibmvscsi: Replace srp tasklet with work
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 15:25:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YqiMUS0IGtMgyQ6q@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7faa88aaf7554545a60561d73597dc4f@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On 2022-06-09 15:46:04 [+0000], David Laight wrote:
> From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
> > Sent: 09 June 2022 16:03
> > 
> > On 2022-05-30 16:15:11 [-0700], Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> > > Tasklets have long been deprecated as being too heavy on the system
> > > by running in irq context - and this is not a performance critical
> > > path. If a higher priority process wants to run, it must wait for
> > > the tasklet to finish before doing so.
> > >
> > > Process srps asynchronously in process context in a dedicated
> > > single threaded workqueue.
> > 
> > I would suggest threaded interrupts instead. The pattern here is the
> > same as in the previous driver except here is less locking.
> 
> How long do these actions runs for, and what is waiting for
> them to finish?

That is something that one with hardware and workload can answer.

> These changes seem to drop the priority from above that of the
> highest priority RT process down to that of a default priority
> user process.
> There is no real guarantee that the latter will run 'any time soon'.

Not sure I can follow. Using threaded interrupts will run at FIFO-50 by
default. Workqueue however is SCHED_OTHER. But then it is not bound to
any CPU so it will run on an available CPU.

> Consider some workloads I'm setting up where most of the cpu are
> likely to spend 90%+ of the time running processes under the RT
> scheduler that are processing audio.
> 
> It is quite likely that a non-RT thread (especially one bound
> to a specific cpu) won't run for several milliseconds.
> (We have to go through 'hoops' to avoid dropping ethernet frames.)
> 
> I'd have thought that some of these kernel threads really
> need to run at a 'middling' RT priority.

The threaded interrupts do this by default. If you run your own RT
threads you need to decide if they are more or less important than the
interrupts.

> 	David

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-14 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220530231512.9729-1-dave@stgolabs.net>
2022-05-30 23:15 ` [PATCH 06/10] scsi/ibmvscsi_tgt: Replace work tasklet with threaded irq Davidlohr Bueso
2022-06-03 11:05   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-05-30 23:15 ` [PATCH 08/10] scsi/ibmvfc: Replace tasklet with work Davidlohr Bueso
2022-06-09 12:30   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-06-28 15:18     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-05-30 23:15 ` [PATCH 09/10] scsi/ibmvscsi: Replace srp " Davidlohr Bueso
2022-06-09 15:02   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-06-09 15:46     ` David Laight
2022-06-14 13:25       ` 'Sebastian Andrzej Siewior' [this message]
2022-06-14 13:34         ` David Laight

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