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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Pingfan Liu <piliu@redhat.com>, Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	npiggin@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Wen Xiong <wenxiong@linux.ibm.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 01/14] blk-mq: add blk_mq_max_nr_hw_queues()
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:01:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZNRTGrRuwf69EgnE@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNRGNsRzEJfzUEzH@fedora>

On 08/10/23 at 10:06am, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 09:18:27AM +0800, Baoquan He wrote:
> > On 08/10/23 at 08:09am, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 03:44:01PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > > I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but we can't just do random
> > > > is_kdump checks, and it's not going to get better by resending it again and
> > > > again.  If kdump kernels limit the number of possible CPUs, it needs to
> > > > reflected in cpu_possible_map and we need to use that information.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Can you look at previous kdump/arch guys' comment about kdump usage &
> > > num_possible_cpus?
> > > 
> > >     https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/CAF+s44RuqswbosY9kMDx35crviQnxOeuvgNsuE75Bb0Y2Jg2uw@mail.gmail.com/
> > >     https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/ZKz912KyFQ7q9qwL@MiWiFi-R3L-srv/
> > > 
> > > The point is that kdump kernels does not limit the number of possible CPUs.
> > > 
> > > 1) some archs support 'nr_cpus=1' for kdump kernel, which is fine, since
> > > num_possible_cpus becomes 1.
> > 
> > Yes, "nr_cpus=" is strongly suggested in kdump kernel because "nr_cpus="
> > limits the possible cpu numbers, while "maxcpuss=" only limits the cpu
> > number which can be brought up during bootup. We noticed this diference
> > because a large number of possible cpus will cost more memory in kdump
> > kernel. e.g percpu initialization, even though kdump kernel have set
> > "maxcpus=1". 
> > 
> > Currently x86 and arm64 all support "nr_cpus=". Pingfan ever spent much
> > effort to make patches to add "nr_cpus=" support to ppc64, seems ppc64
> > dev and maintainers do not care about it. Finally the patches are not
> > accepted, and the work is not continued.
> > 
> > Now, I am wondering what is the barrier to add "nr_cpus=" to power ach.
> > Can we reconsider adding 'nr_cpus=' to power arch since real issue
> > occurred in kdump kernel?
> 
> If 'nr_cpus=' can be supported on ppc64, this patchset isn't needed.
> 
> > 
> > As for this patchset, it can be accpeted so that no failure in kdump
> > kernel is seen on ARCHes w/o "nr_cpus=" support? My personal opinion.
> 
> IMO 'nr_cpus=' support should be preferred, given it is annoying to
> maintain two kinds of implementation for kdump kernel from driver
> viewpoint. I guess kdump things can be simplified too with supporting
> 'nr_cpus=' only.

Yes, 'nr_cpus=' is ideal. Not sure if there's some underlying concerns so
that power people decided to not support it.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-10  3:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230808104239.146085-1-ming.lei@redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <20230808104239.146085-2-ming.lei@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <20230809134401.GA31852@lst.de>
2023-08-10  0:09     ` [PATCH V3 01/14] blk-mq: add blk_mq_max_nr_hw_queues() Ming Lei
2023-08-10  1:18       ` Baoquan He
2023-08-10  2:06         ` Ming Lei
2023-08-10  3:01           ` Baoquan He [this message]
2023-08-11  7:53             ` Hari Bathini
2023-09-05  5:03               ` Baoquan He
2023-08-11 13:10       ` Christoph Hellwig

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