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From: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
To: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	maddy@linux.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	vschneid@redhat.com, iii@linux.ibm.com, huschle@linux.ibm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	vineeth@bitbyteword.org, jgross@suse.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	seanjc@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 03/10] sched: Static key to check paravirt cpu push
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 11:29:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMLq6ht48Mej_4zW@yury> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b751b212-c4a5-4e7e-ad0f-df8cd3de19f7@linux.ibm.com>

On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 08:07:46PM +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/11/25 7:23 AM, Yury Norov wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 11:12:03PM +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
> > > CPUs are marked paravirt when there is contention for underlying
> > > physical CPU.
> > > 
> > > The push mechanism and check for paravirt CPUs are in sched tick
> > > and wakeup. It should be close to no-op when there is no need for it.
> > > Achieve that using static key.
> > > 
> > > Architecture needs to enable this key when it decides there are
> > > paravirt CPUs. Disable it when there are no paravirt CPUs.
> > 
> 
> Hi Yury, Thanks for looking into this series.
> 
> > Testing a bit is quite close to a no-op, isn't it? Have you measured
> > the performance impact that would advocate the static key? Please
> > share some numbers then. I believe I asked you about it on the previous
> > round.
> 
> The reasons I thought to keep are:
> 
> 1. In load balance there is cpumask_and which does a loop.
> Might be better to avoid it when it is not necessary.
> 
> 2. Since __cpu_paravirt_mask is going to in one of the memory node in large NUMA systems
> (likely on boot cpu node), access to it from other nodes might take time and costly when
> it is not in cache. one could say same for static key too. but cpumask can be large when
> NR_CPUS=8192 or so.
>
> 
> In most of the cases hackbench,schbench didn't show much difference.
 
So, you're adding a complication for no clear benefit. Just drop it.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-11 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-10 17:42 [RFC PATCH v3 00/10] paravirt CPUs and push task for less vCPU preemption Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-10 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/10] sched/docs: Document cpu_paravirt_mask and Paravirt CPU concept Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-10 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/10] cpumask: Introduce cpu_paravirt_mask Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-10 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/10] sched: Static key to check paravirt cpu push Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-11  1:53   ` Yury Norov
2025-09-11 14:37     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-11 15:29       ` Yury Norov [this message]
2025-09-10 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/10] sched/core: Dont allow to use CPU marked as paravirt Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-11  5:16   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-11 14:44     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-10 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/10] sched/fair: Don't consider paravirt CPUs for wakeup and load balance Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-11  5:23   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-11 15:56     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-11 16:55       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-08 12:04     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-10 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/10] sched/rt: Don't select paravirt CPU for wakeup and push/pull rt task Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-10 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/10] sched/core: Push current task from paravirt CPU Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-11  5:40   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-11 16:52     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-11 17:06       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-12  5:22         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-12  8:48           ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-12 12:49             ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-10  4:54     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-10 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/10] sysfs: Add paravirt CPU file Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-10 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/10] powerpc: Add debug file for set/unset paravirt CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-10 17:42 ` [HELPER PATCH] sysfs: Provide write method for paravirt Shrikanth Hegde
2025-10-20 14:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/10] paravirt CPUs and push task for less vCPU preemption Sean Christopherson
2025-10-20 15:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-10-23  4:03     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-10-21  6:10   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-10-22 18:46     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 17:43       ` Shrikanth Hegde

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