From: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
To: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Ilya Leoshkevich <iii@linux.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
maddy@linux.ibm.com, srikar@linux.ibm.com,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
seanjc@google.com, kprateek.nayak@amd.com, vschneid@redhat.com,
huschle@linux.ibm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/17] Paravirt CPUs and push task for less vCPU preemption
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 12:39:15 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aUBHw7MvOQYusuuA@yury> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8368868e-48aa-4a90-95d1-1be4de9879e8@linux.ibm.com>
On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 11:00:18AM +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
>
>
> On 12/4/25 6:58 PM, Ilya Leoshkevich wrote:
> > On Wed, 2025-11-19 at 18:14 +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
...
> > Others have already commented on the naming, and I would agree that
> > "paravirt" is really misleading. I cannot say that the previous "cpu-
> > avoid" one was perfect, but it was much better.
It was my suggestion to switch names. cpu-avoid is definitely a
no-go. Because it doesn't explain anything and only confuses.
I suggested 'paravirt' (notice - only suggested) because the patch
series is mainly discussing paravirtualized VMs. But now I'm not even
sure that the idea of the series is:
1. Applicable only to paravirtualized VMs; and
2. Preemption and rescheduling throttling requires another in-kernel
concept other than nohs, isolcpus, cgroups and similar.
Shrikanth, can you please clarify the scope of the new feature? Would
it be useful for non-paravirtualized VMs, for example? Any other
task-cpu bonding problems?
On previous rounds you tried to implement the same with cgroups, as
far as I understood. Can you discuss that? What exactly can't be done
with the existing kernel APIs?
Thanks,
Yury
> > [1] https://github.com/iii-i/linux/commits/iii/poc/cpu-avoid/v3/
>
> Will look into it. one thing to to be careful are CPU numbers.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-15 17:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-19 12:44 [PATCH 00/17] Paravirt CPUs and push task for less vCPU preemption Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 01/17] sched/docs: Document cpu_paravirt_mask and Paravirt CPU concept Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 02/17] cpumask: Introduce cpu_paravirt_mask Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 03/17] sched/core: Dont allow to use CPU marked as paravirt Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 04/17] sched/debug: Remove unused schedstats Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 05/17] sched/fair: Add paravirt movements for proc sched file Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 06/17] sched/fair: Pass current cpu in select_idle_sibling Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 07/17] sched/fair: Don't consider paravirt CPUs for wakeup and load balance Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 08/17] sched/rt: Don't select paravirt CPU for wakeup and push/pull rt task Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 09/17] sched/core: Add support for nohz_full CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-21 3:16 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-21 4:40 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-24 4:36 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 10/17] sched/core: Push current task from paravirt CPU Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 11/17] sysfs: Add paravirt CPU file Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 12/17] powerpc: method to initialize ec and vp cores Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-21 8:29 ` kernel test robot
2025-11-21 10:14 ` kernel test robot
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 13/17] powerpc: enable/disable paravirt CPUs based on steal time Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 14/17] powerpc: process steal values at fixed intervals Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 15/17] powerpc: add debugfs file for controlling handling on steal values Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 16/17] sysfs: Provide write method for paravirt Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-24 17:04 ` Greg KH
2025-11-24 17:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-25 2:49 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-25 15:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-25 16:02 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-11-25 16:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-19 12:44 ` [PATCH 17/17] sysfs: disable arch handling if paravirt file being written Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 00/17] Paravirt CPUs and push task for less vCPU preemption Greg KH
2025-11-25 2:39 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-25 7:48 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2025-11-25 8:48 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-27 10:44 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-04 13:28 ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2025-12-05 5:30 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-15 17:39 ` Yury Norov [this message]
2025-12-18 5:22 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-08 4:47 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-08 9:57 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-08 17:58 ` K Prateek Nayak
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