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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Shengjiu Wang <shengjiu.wang@gmail.com>
Cc: nicoleotsuka@gmail.com, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	lgirdwood@gmail.com, Xiubo.Lee@gmail.com,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Shengjiu Wang <shengjiu.wang@nxp.com>,
	tiwai@suse.com, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, tfiga@chromium.org,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, sakari.ailus@iki.fi,
	perex@perex.cz, mchehab@kernel.org, festevam@gmail.com,
	m.szyprowski@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] Add audio support in v4l2 framework
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 13:09:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b7120871-325c-4db0-a785-854b51ab680f@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA+D8ANmBKMp_L2GS=Lp-saMQKja6L4E6No3yP-e=a5YQBD_jQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:02:29PM +0800, Shengjiu Wang wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 7:22 PM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:

> > Well, I personally don't mind to have some audio capability in v4l2
> > layer.  But, the only uncertain thing for now is whether this is a
> > must-have or not.

> Thanks,  I am also not sure about this.  I am also confused that why
> there is no m2m implementation for audio in the kernel.  Audio also
> has similar decoder encoder post-processing as video.

This is the thing where we've been trying to persuade people to work on
replacing DPCM with full componentisation for about a decade now but
nobody's had time other than Morimoto-san who's been chipping away at
making everything component based for a good chunk of that time.  One
trick is that we don't just want this to work for things that are memory
to memory, we also want things where there's a direct interconnect that
bypasses memory for off-SoC case.

> The reason why I select to extend v4l2 for such audio usage is that v4l2
> looks best for this audio m2m implementation.  v4l2 is designed for m2m
> usage.  if we need implement another 'route',  I don't think it can do better
> that v4l2.

> I appreciate that someone can share his ideas or doable solutions.
> And please don't ignore my request, ignore my patch.

There's a bunch of presentations Lars-Peter did at ELC some considerable
time ago about this.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-02 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-25  6:12 [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] Add audio support in v4l2 framework Shengjiu Wang
2023-07-25  6:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] ASoC: fsl_asrc: define functions for memory to memory usage Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-01 13:58   ` Daniel Baluta
2023-07-25  6:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] ASoC: fsl_easrc: " Shengjiu Wang
2023-07-25  6:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] ASoC: fsl_asrc: move fsl_asrc_common.h to include/sound Shengjiu Wang
2023-07-25  6:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] media: v4l2: Add audio capture and output support Shengjiu Wang
2023-07-28  7:59   ` Tomasz Figa
2023-07-28 15:24     ` Mark Brown
2023-07-31  8:05     ` Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-01  9:47     ` Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-02  7:19       ` Tomasz Figa
2023-07-25  6:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] media: imx: fsl_asrc: Add memory to memory driver Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-01 14:15   ` Daniel Baluta
2023-07-25  6:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] ASoC: fsl_asrc: register m2m platform device Shengjiu Wang
2023-07-25  6:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] ASoC: fsl_easrc: " Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-02  7:32 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] Add audio support in v4l2 framework Hans Verkuil
2023-08-02 11:22   ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-02 12:02     ` Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-02 12:08       ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-02 14:41         ` Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-02 17:28           ` Mark Brown
2023-08-03 13:11             ` Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-11 11:05               ` Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-23 14:33                 ` Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-24 17:03                   ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-24 20:21                     ` Mark Brown
2023-08-25  3:46                       ` Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-25 13:54                         ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-25 14:15                           ` Hans Verkuil
2023-08-30  3:11                             ` Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-31 20:41                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2023-08-02 12:09       ` Mark Brown [this message]
2023-08-02 12:28       ` Hans Verkuil
2023-08-04 12:19         ` Shengjiu Wang
2023-08-04 12:34           ` Hans Verkuil

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