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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 15/25] KVM: TDX: ADD pages to the TD image while populating mirror EPT entries
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 07:18:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c2a34f05801ec5e3a9c51f0c585b368c82c4ea43.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251017003244.186495-16-seanjc@google.com>

On Thu, 2025-10-16 at 17:32 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> When populating the initial memory image for a TDX guest, ADD pages to the
> TD as part of establishing the mappings in the mirror EPT, as opposed to
> creating the mappings and then doing ADD after the fact.  Doing ADD in the
> S-EPT callbacks eliminates the need to track "premapped" pages, as the
> mirror EPT (M-EPT) and S-EPT are always synchronized, e.g. if ADD fails,
> KVM reverts to the previous M-EPT entry (guaranteed to be !PRESENT).
> 
> Eliminating the hole where the M-EPT can have a mapping that doesn't exist
> in the S-EPT in turn obviates the need to handle errors that are unique to
> encountering a missing S-EPT entry (see tdx_is_sept_zap_err_due_to_premap()).
> 
> Keeping the M-EPT and S-EPT synchronized also eliminates the need to check
> for unconsumed "premap" entries during tdx_td_finalize(), as there simply
> can't be any such entries.  Dropping that check in particular reduces the
> overall cognitive load, as the managemented of nr_premapped with respect
				 ^
				 management

> to removal of S-EPT is _very_ subtle.  E.g. successful removal of an S-EPT
> entry after it completed ADD doesn't adjust nr_premapped, but it's not
> clear why that's "ok" but having half-baked entries is not (it's not truly
> "ok" in that removing pages from the image will likely prevent the guest
> from booting, but from KVM's perspective it's "ok").
> 
> Doing ADD in the S-EPT path requires passing an argument via a scratch
> field, but the current approach of tracking the number of "premapped"
> pages effectively does the same.  And the "premapped" counter is much more
> dangerous, as it doesn't have a singular lock to protect its usage, since
> nr_premapped can be modified as soon as mmu_lock is dropped, at least in
> theory.  I.e. nr_premapped is guarded by slots_lock, but only for "happy"
> paths.
> 
> Note, this approach was used/tried at various points in TDX development,
> but was ultimately discarded due to a desire to avoid stashing temporary
> state in kvm_tdx.  But as above, KVM ended up with such state anyways,
> and fully committing to using temporary state provides better access
> rules (100% guarded by slots_lock), and makes several edge cases flat out
> impossible.
> 
> Note #2, continue to extend the measurement outside of mmu_lock, as it's
> a slow operation (typically 16 SEAMCALLs per page whose data is included
> in the measurement), and doesn't *need* to be done under mmu_lock, e.g.
> for consistency purposes.  However, MR.EXTEND isn't _that_ slow, e.g.
> ~1ms latency to measure a full page, so if it needs to be done under
> mmu_lock in the future, e.g. because KVM gains a flow that can remove
> S-EPT entries uring KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION, then extending the
		^
		during

> measurement can also be moved into the S-EPT mapping path (again, only if
> absolutely necessary).  P.S. _If_ MR.EXTEND is moved into the S-EPT path,
> take care not to return an error up the stack if TDH_MR_EXTEND fails, as
> removing the M-EPT entry but not the S-EPT entry would result in
> inconsistent state!
> 
> Reviewed-by: Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>

Reviewed-by: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-24  7:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-17  0:32 [PATCH v3 00/25] KVM: x86/mmu: TDX post-populate cleanups Sean Christopherson
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 01/25] KVM: Make support for kvm_arch_vcpu_async_ioctl() mandatory Sean Christopherson
2025-10-17  9:12   ` Claudio Imbrenda
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 02/25] KVM: Rename kvm_arch_vcpu_async_ioctl() to kvm_arch_vcpu_unlocked_ioctl() Sean Christopherson
2025-10-17  9:13   ` Claudio Imbrenda
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 03/25] KVM: TDX: Drop PROVE_MMU=y sanity check on to-be-populated mappings Sean Christopherson
2025-10-22  3:15   ` Binbin Wu
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 04/25] KVM: x86/mmu: Add dedicated API to map guest_memfd pfn into TDP MMU Sean Christopherson
2025-10-21  0:10   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-21  4:06   ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-21 16:36     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-22  8:05       ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-22 18:12         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-23  6:48           ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-22  4:53   ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-30  8:34     ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-04 17:57       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-05  7:32         ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-05  7:47           ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-05 15:26             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-23 10:28   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 05/25] Revert "KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add a helper function to walk down the TDP MMU" Sean Christopherson
2025-10-22  5:56   ` Binbin Wu
2025-10-23 10:30   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 06/25] KVM: x86/mmu: Rename kvm_tdp_map_page() to kvm_tdp_page_prefault() Sean Christopherson
2025-10-22  5:57   ` Binbin Wu
2025-10-23 10:38   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 07/25] KVM: TDX: Drop superfluous page pinning in S-EPT management Sean Christopherson
2025-10-21  0:10   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 08/25] KVM: TDX: Return -EIO, not -EINVAL, on a KVM_BUG_ON() condition Sean Christopherson
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 09/25] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_sept_drop_private_spte() into tdx_sept_remove_private_spte() Sean Christopherson
2025-10-23 10:53   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-23 14:59     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-23 22:20       ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 10/25] KVM: x86/mmu: Drop the return code from kvm_x86_ops.remove_external_spte() Sean Christopherson
2025-10-22  8:46   ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-22 19:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 11/25] KVM: TDX: Avoid a double-KVM_BUG_ON() in tdx_sept_zap_private_spte() Sean Christopherson
2025-10-23 22:21   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 12/25] KVM: TDX: Use atomic64_dec_return() instead of a poor equivalent Sean Christopherson
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 13/25] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_mem_page_record_premap_cnt() into its sole caller Sean Christopherson
2025-10-23 22:32   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-24  7:21     ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-24  7:38   ` Binbin Wu
2025-10-24 16:33     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-27  9:01       ` Binbin Wu
2025-10-28  0:29         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 14/25] KVM: TDX: Bug the VM if extended the initial measurement fails Sean Christopherson
2025-10-21  0:10   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-23 17:27     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-23 22:48   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-24 16:35     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-27  9:31       ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 15/25] KVM: TDX: ADD pages to the TD image while populating mirror EPT entries Sean Christopherson
2025-10-24  7:18   ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 16/25] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_sept_zap_private_spte() into tdx_sept_remove_private_spte() Sean Christopherson
2025-10-24  9:53   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 17/25] KVM: TDX: Combine KVM_BUG_ON + pr_tdx_error() into TDX_BUG_ON() Sean Christopherson
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 18/25] KVM: TDX: Derive error argument names from the local variable names Sean Christopherson
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 19/25] KVM: TDX: Assert that mmu_lock is held for write when removing S-EPT entries Sean Christopherson
2025-10-23  7:37   ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-23 15:14     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-24 10:05       ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 20/25] KVM: TDX: Add macro to retry SEAMCALLs when forcing vCPUs out of guest Sean Christopherson
2025-10-24 10:09   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-27 19:20     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-27 22:00       ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 21/25] KVM: TDX: Add tdx_get_cmd() helper to get and validate sub-ioctl command Sean Christopherson
2025-10-21  0:12   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-24 10:11   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 22/25] KVM: TDX: Convert INIT_MEM_REGION and INIT_VCPU to "unlocked" vCPU ioctl Sean Christopherson
2025-10-24 10:36   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 23/25] KVM: TDX: Use guard() to acquire kvm->lock in tdx_vm_ioctl() Sean Christopherson
2025-10-21  0:10   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-21 16:56     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-21 19:03       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-24 10:36   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 24/25] KVM: TDX: Guard VM state transitions with "all" the locks Sean Christopherson
2025-10-24 10:02   ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-24 16:57     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-27  9:26       ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-27 17:46         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-27 18:10           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-28  0:28             ` [PATCH] KVM: TDX: Take MMU lock around tdh_vp_init() Rick Edgecombe
2025-10-28  5:37               ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-29  6:37               ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-18 23:31               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-19  0:01                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-19  0:02                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-28  1:37           ` [PATCH v3 24/25] KVM: TDX: Guard VM state transitions with "all" the locks Yan Zhao
2025-10-28 17:40             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-24 10:53   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-28  0:28   ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-28  0:37     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-28  1:01       ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-17  0:32 ` [PATCH v3 25/25] KVM: TDX: Fix list_add corruption during vcpu_load() Sean Christopherson
2025-10-20  8:50   ` Yan Zhao

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