From: Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@cern.ch>
To: David Edelsohn <dje@watson.ibm.com>
Cc: Richard Henderson <rth@cygnus.com>,
Paul.Mackerras@cs.anu.edu.au, linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org,
linux-fbdev@vuser.vu.union.edu
Subject: Re: [linux-fbdev] Re: readl() and friends and eieio on PPC
Date: 12 Aug 1999 09:32:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3k8r178tq.fsf@lxp03.cern.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: David Edelsohn's message of "Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:16:14 -0400"
>>>>> "David" == David Edelsohn <dje@watson.ibm.com> writes:
>>>>> Richard Henderson writes:
Richard> But it isn't zero cost. It's not high cost, but that's not
Richard> the same thing.
David> Is your assumption that you want to provide the infrastructure
David> to write high-performance device drivers or to write device
David> drivers that don't require as much expertise and knowledge to
David> produce correct results? There are conflicting goals in this
David> design providing different benefits to Linux.
I am certainly up for high performance device drivers. Even having
writel do the syncing there are enough other pitfalls for people to
take into account. Some of these are much harder to understand than
dealing with write ordering and as such, trying to make things
invisible are only giving us a false guarantee. Ie. if we want to use
spin locks in the kernel we need to teach people how to use them
correctly.
Jes
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-08-09 8:17 readl() and friends and eieio on PPC Geert Uytterhoeven
1999-08-09 17:19 ` David A. Gatwood
1999-08-10 1:00 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-10 7:18 ` [linux-fbdev] " Jes Sorensen
1999-08-11 0:23 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-11 7:23 ` Jes Sorensen
1999-08-11 7:38 ` Richard Henderson
1999-08-12 0:13 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-12 1:39 ` Peter Chang
1999-08-12 4:52 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-12 6:17 ` Peter Chang
1999-08-12 0:17 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-12 4:40 ` Richard Henderson
1999-08-12 5:00 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-12 5:43 ` Richard Henderson
1999-08-12 7:07 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-12 7:33 ` Richard Henderson
1999-08-12 9:58 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-12 12:31 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
1999-08-13 12:18 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-18 11:02 ` Gabriel Paubert
1999-08-13 18:33 ` Richard Henderson
1999-08-12 5:16 ` David Edelsohn
1999-08-12 5:27 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-12 5:52 ` Richard Henderson
1999-08-12 7:11 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-12 7:32 ` Jes Sorensen [this message]
1999-08-11 23:52 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-12 7:38 ` Jes Sorensen
1999-08-12 19:00 ` David A. Gatwood
1999-08-13 1:51 ` Paul Mackerras
[not found] <Pine.LNX.3.96.990813143741.27557B-100000@mvista.com>
[not found] ` <d3so5mdyta.fsf@lxp03.cern.ch>
1999-08-14 18:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
1999-08-14 18:36 ` David A. Gatwood
1999-08-14 19:48 ` Jes Sorensen
1999-08-15 1:28 ` David A. Gatwood
1999-08-14 21:39 ` Richard Henderson
1999-08-15 23:16 ` Paul Mackerras
1999-08-16 0:29 ` Richard Henderson
1999-08-16 7:11 ` Jes Sorensen
[not found] <m3672hkxri.fsf@soma.andreas.org>
1999-08-15 13:39 ` James Simmons
[not found] <d3pv0p72yr.fsf@lxp03.cern.ch>
1999-08-15 19:43 ` David A. Gatwood
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