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From: Aneesh Kumar K V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, npiggin@gmail.com,
	Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 7/7] mm/memory_hotplug: Enable runtime update of memmap_on_memory parameter
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 19:54:23 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d71a85b1-c0ea-6451-d65c-d7c5040caf77@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZMuP7gsxQzAmRpNX@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 8/3/23 5:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 03-08-23 11:24:08, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> [...]
>>> would be readable only when the block is offline and it would reallocate
>>> vmemmap on the change. Makes sense? Are there any risks? Maybe pfn
>>> walkers?
>>
>> The question is: is it of any real value such that it would be worth the
>> cost and risk?
>>
>>
>> One of the primary reasons for memmap_on_memory is that *memory hotplug*
>> succeeds even in low-memory situations (including, low on ZONE_NORMAL
>> situations).
> 
> One usecase I would have in mind is a mix of smaller and larger memory
> blocks. For larger ones you want to have memmap_on_memory in general
> because they do not eat memory from outside but small(er) ones might be
> more tricky because now you can add a lot of blocks that would be
> internally fragmented to prevent larger allocations to form.
> 


I guess that closely aligns with device memory and being able to add
device memory via dax/kmem using a larger memory block size.
We can then make sure we enable the memmap_on_memory feature
at the device level for this device memory. Do you see a need for
firmware-managed memory to be hotplugged in with different memory block sizes?



>> So you want that behavior already when hotplugging such
>> devices. While there might be value to relocate it later, I'm not sure if
>> that is really worth it, and it does not solve the main use case.
> 
> Is it worth it? TBH I am not sure same as I am not sure the global
> default should be writable after boot. If we want to make it more
> dynamic we should however talk about the proper layer this is
> implemented on.

-aneesh

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-05 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-01  4:41 [PATCH v7 0/7] Add support for memmap on memory feature on ppc64 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-08-01  4:41 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] mm/memory_hotplug: Simplify ARCH_MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY_ENABLE kconfig Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-08-01  4:41 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] mm/memory_hotplug: Allow memmap on memory hotplug request to fallback Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-08-01  4:41 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] mm/memory_hotplug: Allow architecture to override memmap on memory support check Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-08-01  4:41 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] mm/memory_hotplug: Support memmap_on_memory when memmap is not aligned to pageblocks Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-08-01  9:04   ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-01  4:41 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] powerpc/book3s64/memhotplug: Enable memmap on memory for radix Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-08-01  4:41 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] mm/memory_hotplug: Embed vmem_altmap details in memory block Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-08-01 23:10   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-08-02  4:47     ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2023-08-01  4:41 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] mm/memory_hotplug: Enable runtime update of memmap_on_memory parameter Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-08-01  8:58   ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-01  9:28     ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2023-08-01 10:50       ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-02  4:45         ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2023-08-02 15:50           ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-02 15:54             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-02 15:57               ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2023-08-02 16:02                 ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-08-02 16:59               ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-03  8:52                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-03  9:24                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-03 11:30                     ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-05 14:24                       ` Aneesh Kumar K V [this message]
2023-08-07 12:27                         ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-07 12:41                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-07 18:35                             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-08  6:09                               ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2023-08-08  6:29                               ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2023-08-08  7:46                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-07 12:54                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-01  9:07 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] Add support for memmap on memory feature on ppc64 Michal Hocko

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