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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/20] kernel/dma/direct: refine dma_direct_alloc zone selection
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:01:45 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d9866d44704073ecc418f62da0ba7587ce7c9af8.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180822065856.GC19284@lst.de>

On Wed, 2018-08-22 at 08:58 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 09:54:33AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Mon, 2018-07-30 at 18:38 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > We need to take the DMA offset and encryption bit into account when selecting
> > > a zone.  Add a helper that takes those into account and use it.
> > 
> > That whole "encryption" stuff seems to be completely specific to the
> > way x86 does memory encryption, or am I mistaken ? It's not clear to me
> > what that does in practice and how it relates to DMA mappings.
> 
> Not even all of x86, but AMD in particular, Intel does it yet another
> way.  But it still is easier to take this into the core with a few
> overrides than duplicating all the code.
> 
> > I'm also not sure about that whole business with ZONE_DMA and
> > ARCH_ZONE_DMA_BITS...
> 
> ZONE_DMA usually (but not always) maps to 24-bits of address space,
> if it doesn't (I mostly through about s390 with it's odd 31-bits)
> the architecture can override it if it cares).
> 
> > On ppc64, unless you enable swiotlb (which we only do currently on
> > some embedded platforms), you have all of memory in ZONE_DMA.
> > 
> > [    0.000000] Zone ranges:
> > [    0.000000]   DMA      [mem 0x0000000000000000-0x0000001fffffffff]
> > [    0.000000]   DMA32    empty
> > [    0.000000]   Normal   empty
> > [    0.000000]   Device   empty
> 
> This is really weird.  Why would you wire up ZONE_DMA like this?

We always did :-) It predates my involvement and I think it predates
even Pauls. It's quite silly actually since the first powerpc machines
actually had ISA devices in them, but that's how it's been for ever. I
suppose we could change it but that would mean digging out some old
stuff to test.

> The general scheme that architectures should implement is:
> 
> ZONE_DMA:	Any memory below a magic threshold that is lower than
> 		32-bit.  Only enabled if actually required (usually
> 		either 24-bit for ISA, or some other weird architecture
> 		specific value like 32-bit for S/390)

It should have been ZONE_ISA_DMA :-)

> ZONE_DMA32:	Memory <= 32-bit if the architecture supports more than
> 		32-bits worth of physical address space.  Should generally
> 		be enabled on all 64-bit architectures unless you have
> 		a very good reason not to.

Yeah so we sort-of enable the config option but only populate the zone
on platforms using swiotlb (freescale stuff). It's a bit messy at the
moment I must admit.

> ZONE_NORMAL:	Everything above 32-bit not falling into HIGHMEM or
> 		MOVEABLE.

Cheers,
Ben.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-23  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-30 16:38 use generic DMA mapping code in powerpc Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 01/20] kernel/dma/direct: take DMA offset into account in dma_direct_supported Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-08 23:44   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-22  6:53     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-22 23:59       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-23  5:24         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-23  5:24           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 02/20] kernel/dma/direct: refine dma_direct_alloc zone selection Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-08 23:54   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-22  6:58     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-23  0:01       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2018-08-23  5:26         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 03/20] dma-mapping: make the get_required_mask method available unconditionally Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 04/20] ia64: remove get_required_mask implementation Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 05/20] swiotlb: allow the architecture to provide a get_required_mask hook Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-27 16:06   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 06/20] dma-noncoherent: add an optional arch hook for ->get_required_mask Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 07/20] powerpc/dma: remove the unused ARCH_HAS_DMA_MMAP_COHERENT define Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-08 23:56   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 08/20] powerpc/dma: remove the unused dma_nommu_ops export Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-31 12:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09  0:01     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-22  6:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-22 23:50         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 09/20] powerpc/dma: remove the unused ISA_DMA_THRESHOLD export Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09  0:14   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 10/20] powerpc/dma-noncoherent: don't disable irqs over kmap_atomic Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09  0:27   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-22  7:02     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-22 23:45       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 11/20] powerpc/dma: split the two __dma_alloc_coherent implementations Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09  0:40   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 12/20] powerpc/dma: use phys_to_dma instead of get_dma_offset Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09  0:43   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 13/20] powerpc/dma: remove get_dma_offset Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09  0:45   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 14/20] powerpc/dma: replace dma_nommu_dma_supported with dma_direct_supported Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09  0:49   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 15/20] powerpc/dma: remove the unused unmap_page and unmap_sg methods Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09  0:49   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 16/20] powerpc/dma: use dma_direct_{alloc,free} Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09  0:52   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-27  8:51     ` Scott Wood
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 17/20] powerpc/dma-swiotlb: use generic swiotlb_dma_ops Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09  0:54   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-09  1:57     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-22  7:04       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 18/20] powerpc/dma-noncoherent: use generic dma_noncoherent_ops Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09  1:00   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 19/20] powerpc/dma: use the generic dma-direct map_page and map_sg routines Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 20/20] powerpc/dma: remove dma_nommu_mmap_coherent Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09  1:05   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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