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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm/memory_hotplug: Introduce memory block types
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 10:12:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db839c89-0ce8-52f8-8199-4a28197a91e8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181003142444.GJ4714@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 03/10/2018 16:24, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 03-10-18 15:52:24, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> [...]
>>> As David said some of the memory cannot be onlined without further steps
>>> (e.g. when it is standby as David called it) and then I fail to see how
>>> eBPF help in any way.
>>
>> and also, we can fight till the end of days here trying to come up with
>> an onlining solution which would work for everyone and eBPF would move
>> this decision to distro level.
> 
> The point is that there is _no_ general onlining solution. This is
> basically policy which belongs to the userspace.
> 

Vitalys point was that this policy is to be formulated by user space via
eBPF and handled by the kernel. So the work of formulating the policy
would still have to be done by user space.

I guess the only problem this would partially solve is onlining of
memory failing as we can no longer fork in user space. Just as you said,
I also think this is rather some serious misconfiguration. We will
already most probably have other applications triggering OOM already.

-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-04  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-28 15:03 [PATCH RFC] mm/memory_hotplug: Introduce memory block types David Hildenbrand
2018-09-28 17:02 ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-01  9:13   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-01 16:24     ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-04  7:48       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-01  8:40 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-01  9:34   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-02 13:47     ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-02 15:25       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-03 13:38         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-03 13:44           ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-03 13:52             ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-03 14:07               ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-03 14:34                 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-03 17:14                   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-04  6:19                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-04  8:13                       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-04 15:28                         ` Michal Suchánek
2018-10-04 15:45                           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-04 17:50                             ` Michal Suchánek
2018-10-05  7:37                               ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-03 14:24               ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-03 17:06                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-04  8:12                 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2018-10-03 13:54         ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-03 17:00           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-04  6:28             ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-04  7:40               ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-23 11:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-23 18:06   ` Michal Suchánek
2018-11-26 12:30     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-26 13:33       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-26 14:20         ` Michal Suchánek
2018-11-26 15:59           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-27 16:32             ` Michal Suchánek
2018-11-27 16:47               ` David Hildenbrand

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