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Subject: Re: [PATCH] kprobes: Enable tracing for mololithic kernel images
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:42:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f22e34b8-5dae-55c8-c04e-e8b913b40b80@csgroup.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YqHuUsevcvaaunVq@iki.fi>



Le 09/06/2022 à 14:57, Jarkko Sakkinen a écrit :
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 08:30:12AM +0000, Christophe Leroy wrote:
>>
>>
>> Le 08/06/2022 à 01:59, Jarkko Sakkinen a écrit :
>>> [You don't often get email from jarkko@profian.com. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ]
>>>
>>> Tracing with kprobes while running a monolithic kernel is currently
>>> impossible because CONFIG_KPROBES is dependent of CONFIG_MODULES.  This
>>> dependency is a result of kprobes code using the module allocator for the
>>> trampoline code.
>>>
>>> Detaching kprobes from modules helps to squeeze down the user space,
>>> e.g. when developing new core kernel features, while still having all
>>> the nice tracing capabilities.
>>
>> Nice idea, could also be nice to have BPF without MODULES.
> 
> Yeah, for sure. You have to start from somewhere :-) I'd guess this
> a step forward also for BPF.
> 
>>>
>>> For kernel/ and arch/*, move module_alloc() and module_memfree() to
>>> module_alloc.c, and compile as part of vmlinux when either CONFIG_MODULES
>>> or CONFIG_KPROBES is enabled.  In addition, flag kernel module specific
>>> code with CONFIG_MODULES.
>>
>> Nice, but that's not enough. You have to audit every peace of code that
>> depends on CONFIG_MODULES and see if it needs to be activated for your
>> case as well. For instance some powerpc configurations don't honor exec
>> page faults on kernel pages when CONFIG_MODULES is not selected.
> 
> Thanks for pointing this out. With "every peace of code" you probably
> are referring to the 13 arch-folders, which support kprobes in the first
> place (just checking)?

In a way yes, I was mainly thinking about the dozen of places in 
arch/powerpc/ to begin with. And also to check the 30 places with 
CONFIG_MODULES in includes/ directory which contains things that may be 
used by architectures.

      reply	other threads:[~2022-06-10 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-07 23:59 [PATCH] kprobes: Enable tracing for mololithic kernel images Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-08  2:35 ` Guo Ren
2022-06-08  5:25   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-08 14:21     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2022-06-08 16:12       ` Song Liu
2022-06-08 18:20         ` Song Liu
2022-06-08 20:26           ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-06-09  3:48             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-09 13:24               ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-06-09 18:41                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-06-09 22:48                   ` Song Liu
2022-06-14 12:32                   ` jarkko
2022-06-15  6:37                     ` hch
2022-06-15 21:29                       ` jarkko
2022-06-09  8:33         ` Christophe Leroy
2022-06-09 22:23           ` Song Liu
2022-06-09 13:12         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09 13:23           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-06-12 12:18             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2022-06-12 15:59               ` Christophe Leroy
2022-06-13  0:01                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2022-06-14 10:54             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09 12:59       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-08 16:27 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-06-08 18:19   ` Song Liu
2022-06-12 12:30     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2022-06-14 12:30       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09  5:37   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09  7:47 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-06-09 11:48   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09 13:44   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-06-14 12:26     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-14 12:36       ` Christophe Leroy
2022-06-15 21:24         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09  8:30 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-06-09 12:57   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-06-09 13:42     ` Christophe Leroy [this message]

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