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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: olof@lixom.net (Olof Johansson)
Cc: Jon Loeliger <jdl@jdl.com>,
	"linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] Add uli1575 pci-bridge sector to MPC8641HPCN dts file.
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 10:18:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7f5c8cff01c7031a1d0b4e666869334@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070604001639.GA25972@lixom.net>

>> They aren't -that- good when you come out of the blue and don't know
>> where to start. I think a tutorial based on building a tree for an
>> example board step by step would be best.
>
> There seems to be two things that causes problems:

0) The lack of good, clear, exhaustive, and recipe-style
documentation.

> 1) People basing their new tree on an old example that's broken, and
> getting crap for that because it's not correct

Yeah.

> 2) Trying to add new devices that aren't in any trees already, and
> the near infinite discussions that then start.

This is a *good* thing (as long as it's productive) --
it simply is a lot of work to define a good device binding
for non-trivial devices.

> (2) I don't have a good solution for. Better documentation pointers 
> would
> definitely be a help, but it's not the whole solution. I'd expect it to
> get better and better over time as there'll be less and less unmapped
> terrain, and better and better examples to use.

We can only hope :-)


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-04  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-01 17:48 [PATCH 2/8] Add uli1575 pci-bridge sector to MPC8641HPCN dts file Jon Loeliger
2007-06-01 18:58 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-01 21:45   ` Wade Farnsworth
2007-06-02  8:22     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-02  8:53       ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-06-02  9:01         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-02 19:53           ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-06-02 20:23             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03  0:01               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03  7:41                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03  8:33                   ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-06-03  8:57                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03  9:12                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03 10:02                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 10:10                       ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-06-03 11:42                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 12:43                           ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-06-03 14:42                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:20                               ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-06-03 18:56                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03  9:07                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03  9:59                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 14:50                     ` Jon Loeliger
2007-06-03 17:27                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 20:27                     ` Andy Fleming
2007-06-04 22:31                       ` Randy Vinson
2007-06-05 19:16                         ` Andy Fleming
2007-06-05 20:28                           ` Randy Vinson
2007-06-06  7:09                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-07 16:21                           ` Andy Fleming
2007-06-07 16:53                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 22:12                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-08  8:29                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-08  8:32                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05  6:05               ` Zang Roy-r61911
2007-06-02 23:52           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-02 23:51         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03  8:59         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-06-04 18:50       ` Jon Loeliger
2007-06-04 19:27         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-01 23:28   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-01 23:36   ` Jon Loeliger
2007-06-02  0:22     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-02  8:28       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-02 16:04         ` Jon Loeliger
2007-06-02 20:00           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-02 23:16             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03  7:37               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04  0:16               ` Olof Johansson
2007-06-04  8:18                 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-06-02  8:25     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-02 23:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03  0:13   ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-06-03  7:42     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03  7:53       ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-06-04 18:49   ` Jon Loeliger

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