From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.arcor.de", Issuer "Thawte Premium Server CA" (verified OK)) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89E8DDE49 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:18:59 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20070604001639.GA25972@lixom.net> References: <1180720112.14219.62.camel@ld0161-tx32> <1180743742.19517.485.camel@localhost.localdomain> <27807251665003e059b2c39d2b700415@kernel.crashing.org> <1180826202.14025.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070604001639.GA25972@lixom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: From: Segher Boessenkool Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] Add uli1575 pci-bridge sector to MPC8641HPCN dts file. Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 10:18:52 +0200 To: olof@lixom.net (Olof Johansson) Cc: Jon Loeliger , "linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org" List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , >> They aren't -that- good when you come out of the blue and don't know >> where to start. I think a tutorial based on building a tree for an >> example board step by step would be best. > > There seems to be two things that causes problems: 0) The lack of good, clear, exhaustive, and recipe-style documentation. > 1) People basing their new tree on an old example that's broken, and > getting crap for that because it's not correct Yeah. > 2) Trying to add new devices that aren't in any trees already, and > the near infinite discussions that then start. This is a *good* thing (as long as it's productive) -- it simply is a lot of work to define a good device binding for non-trivial devices. > (2) I don't have a good solution for. Better documentation pointers > would > definitely be a help, but it's not the whole solution. I'd expect it to > get better and better over time as there'll be less and less unmapped > terrain, and better and better examples to use. We can only hope :-) Segher