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From: "Grant Likely" <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
To: "Jon Smirl" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: PowerPC dev list <Linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: Audio codec device tree entries
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:13:07 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa686aa40710241013w41e8919cn893fa305bb538e52@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e4733910710241001g165e7aeatdc92096544fbeb60@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/24/07, Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/24/07, Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca> wrote:
> > Heh, I'm one of the folks who objected to it; here's what was written:
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > pseudo-sound@0 { // use to trigger loading platform specific fabric driver
> > > > >       device_type = "pseudo-sound"
> > > > > };
> > > >
> > > > I don't think this is a good idea.  The device tree is for describing
> > > > your hardware; so the layout should reflect that.  Make the platform
> > > > code do the right thing with the real nodes.
> >
> > What I objected to was that the pseudo-sound node didn't contain any
> > real information.  It was just being a hook to trigger calling a probe
> > function.  If you're going to do that then you might as well just call
> > it directly from platform code.
>
> Calling it directly from the platform code is an option, but where
> does the fabric driver code live? It doesn't make a lot of sense to
> put ALSA code into arch/powerpc/platforms/52xx. I could make a
> function call from arch/powerpc/platforms/52xx over to
> sound/soc/powerpc but that's not very pretty.
>
> Another option is to make the fabric driver a "struct platform_driver"
> instead of a "struct of_platform_driver". "struct platform_driver" is
> not being probed in the current mpc5200 code. This option makes senses
> to me, "struct platform_driver" will load without a device tree node.
> The driver will still need to check and see if it is on the right
> platform when more than one is compiled in.

Yes, this is a good approach.

> > It would be possible and reasonable for a single fabric driver to work
> > with many different circuit layouts as long as it has the information
> > needed to adapt each instance.
>
> That is how the Apple driver is implemented. There is a single fabric
> driver that uses layout-id to set everything up to match the physical
> PCB.
> sound/aoa/fabrics/snd-aoa-fabric-layout.c
>
> But Apple put the layout id down inside the a sound node:
> /proc/device-tree/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/i2s@0/i2s-a@10000/sound:
> name             "sound"
> device_type      "soundchip"
> compatible       "AOAbase"
> built-in
> layout-id        00000046 (70)
> object-model-version 00000002
> vendor-id        0000106b (4203)
> platform-tas-codec-ref ff98cba8
> linux,phandle    ff985d48

Yes, this is the same idea.  I don't think benh and segher were
particularly fond of it though.  I think Segher in particular had a
preference for the platform code probing approach.

> > Now is probably a good time to mention that there is *nothing* in the
> > device tree that enforces a 1:1 relationship between device tree nodes
> > and driver instances.  Sure, it make sense to register the i2s and
> > codec drivers from probing on the i2s and codec nodes.  However, there
> > is nothing that prevents the codec driver from *also* registering a
> > fabric driver based on a property in the codec node or the board-level
> > compatible property.
>
> But there is something in the kernel that enforces it. I haven't
> checked the powerpc code, but the PCI code won't probe anymore drivers
> once one has attached to a device. The rule of one driver per device
> is a good one. Places where that rule has been broken have caused a
> lot of problems (fbdev vs DRM).

heh; there's isn't a 1:1 relationship between device tree nodes and
device objects either.  You create the device objects that you need;
either on the platform bus or the of_platform bus.

The probe of an of_platform device can trigger the creation of a
plaform_device node for *another* driver.  This approach is safe.

>
> > Fabric drivers are codec specific anyway.  It's not all that
> > unrealistic for the device tree binding for a codec to have a list of
> > fabric drivers that it can register.
>
> The codec drivers in asoc are completely agnostic. The same codec
> driver works on x86, arm, powerpc, etc.

Yes the *driver* is agnostic; but the *binding* doesn't have to be.  :-)

Cheers,
g.

-- 
Grant Likely, B.Sc., P.Eng.
Secret Lab Technologies Ltd.
grant.likely@secretlab.ca
(403) 399-0195

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-24 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-23  1:59 Audio codec device tree entries Jon Smirl
2007-10-23  2:57 ` David Gibson
2007-10-23  3:57 ` Grant Likely
2007-10-23  8:06   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-10-23 15:27 ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-23 16:56   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-10-23 22:29     ` Jon Smirl
2007-10-24 14:13       ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-24 15:00         ` Jon Smirl
2007-10-24 15:07           ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-24 15:28             ` Grant Likely
2007-10-24 23:52               ` David Gibson
2007-10-24 15:16           ` Grant Likely
2007-10-24 15:20             ` Grant Likely
2007-10-24 15:28               ` Jon Smirl
2007-10-24 15:43                 ` Grant Likely
2007-10-24 15:54                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-10-24 16:01                     ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-24 16:39                       ` Grant Likely
2007-10-24 16:41                         ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-24 16:47                           ` Grant Likely
2007-10-24 16:38                     ` Grant Likely
2007-10-24 16:41                       ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-24 16:52                         ` Grant Likely
2007-10-24 17:01                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-10-24 17:13                         ` Grant Likely [this message]
2007-10-24 17:13                         ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-24 19:31                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-10-24 19:41                             ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-24 19:56                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-10-25  0:04                       ` David Gibson
2007-10-25  0:17                         ` Jon Smirl
2007-10-25  0:38                           ` David Gibson
2007-10-25  3:11                             ` Jon Smirl
2007-10-25 16:14                               ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-24 23:55                     ` David Gibson
2007-10-24 15:23             ` Jon Smirl
2007-10-24 15:40               ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-24 15:54                 ` Grant Likely
2007-10-24 15:08         ` Grant Likely
2007-10-24 15:19           ` Jon Smirl
2007-10-25  0:01             ` David Gibson

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