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* HOWTO: Creating a root file system < 32 MB
@ 2001-08-31 12:38 diekema_jon
  2001-08-31 13:00 ` Kapil Konde
  2001-08-31 13:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: diekema_jon @ 2001-08-31 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linuxppc-embedded


HOWTO: Creating a root file system < 32 MB

Objective:

    Create a Linux root file system that is under 32MB for a MPC8260 target.

Direction:

    The size of the root file system in HardHat Linux, HHL, 2.0 (169MB)
    is significantly larger than that of HHL 1.2 (94MB).  The capabilities
    in the HHL 1.2 root file system, are more than adequate for an embedded
    board.  We will start with all the packages in HHL 1.2, and
    removed the fluff until we hit our target size.

Tools used:

	The following tools were used to determine the purpose and
	files contained in the various packages:

        gnorpm -q <package-name>

        rpm -q -i <package-name>
            Display package information

        rpm -q --list <package-name>
            List files in package.

        rpm -q --docfiles <package-name>
            List only documentation files (implies -l).

1. Obtain the HHL 1.2 packages from MontaVista:

   ftp://ftp.mvista.com/pub/...

   Note: I created a CDROM with *ALL* the packages to make it easy to
         install something that got removed.

2. Mount the HardHat Linux 1.2 PPC CDROM under /mnt/cdrom

3. Install all *.i386.rpm and *.noarch.rpm RPM's

   cd /mnt/cdrom/ppc_82xx/RPMS
   rpm -ihv `find *.i386.rpm *.noarch.rpm | grep -v busybox`
   cd /mnt/cdrom/common
   rpm -ihv *.noarch.rpm

4. The following packages (74) were installed:

hhl-kernel-2.2.14-1.2.2-1
hhl-kernel-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-apache-1.3.12-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-apache-devel-1.3.12-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-apache-html_manual-1.3.12-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-ash-0.2-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-bash-2.03-6
hhl-ppc_82xx-binutils-2.10.0.12-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-bonnie-1-0
hhl-ppc_82xx-c++-2.95.2-13
hhl-ppc_82xx-cpio-2.4.2-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-dhcp-2.0-0
hhl-ppc_82xx-diffutils-2.7-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-e2fsprogs-1.18-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-filesystem-2.0-12
hhl-ppc_82xx-fileutils-4.0-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-findutils-4.1-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-ftp-0.15-4
hhl-ppc_82xx-ftpd-0.11-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-gated-1-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-gawk-3.0.4-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-gcc-2.95.2-13
hhl-ppc_82xx-gdb-5.0-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-gdb-client-5.0-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-gdb-server-5.0-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-getty_ps-2.0.7j-0
hhl-ppc_82xx-glibc-2.1.3-1e
hhl-ppc_82xx-gpm-1.17.9-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-grep-2.4-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-gzip-1.2.4-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-inetd-0.10-6
hhl-ppc_82xx-ipchains-1.3.9-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-kernel-headers-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-ldconfig-1.9.5-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-libstdc++-2.10.0-13
hhl-ppc_82xx-libtermcap-2.0.8-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-modutils-2.1.121-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-netperf-2.1pl3-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-net-tools-1.53-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-pciutils-2.1.8-0
hhl-ppc_82xx-pdisk-0.8a-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-perl-5.00503-6
hhl-ppc_82xx-ping-0.10-6
hhl-ppc_82xx-popt-1.4-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-procps-2.0.4-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-psmisc-18-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-pump-0.7.2-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-pvm-3.4.3-0
hhl-ppc_82xx-sash-3.4-5
hhl-ppc_82xx-sbc8260-lsp-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-sbc8260-lsp-binaries-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-sbc8260-tools-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-sed-3.02-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-sh-utils-2.0-4
hhl-ppc_82xx-sp8240-lsp-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-sp8240-lsp-binaries-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-strace-4.2-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-sysvinit-2.77-6
hhl-ppc_82xx-tar-1.13.11-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-tcpdump-3.4-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-telnet-4.4.2-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-telnetd-0.10-4
hhl-ppc_82xx-termcap-9.12.6-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-textutils-2.0-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-tftp-0.15-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-ucd-snmp-4.1.1-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-ucd-snmp-devel-4.1.1-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-ucd-snmp-utils-4.1.1-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-util-linux-2.10m-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-vi-5.6-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-webs-2.1-4
hhl-ppc_82xx-zlib-1.1.3-2
hhl-remove-1-0
hhl-rpmconfig-0.14-1

dell 345} du -h -s /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
94M     /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target

5. Remove the web server support (~5MB)

rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-apache-html_manual-1.3.12-2
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-apache-devel-1.3.12-2
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-apache-1.3.12-2
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-webs-2.1-4

dell 366} du -h -s /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
89M     /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target

6. Remove the SNMP support (~5MB)

rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-ucd-snmp-utils-4.1.1-2
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-ucd-snmp-devel-4.1.1-2
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-ucd-snmp-4.1.1-2

dell 374} du -h -s /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
84M     /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target

7. Removing the Linux Support Packages, LSP, and tools (~5MB)

   We are using the Linux kernels from the BitKeeper repositories
   at bk://ppc.bkserver.net/linuxppc_2_4 and
   bk://ppc.bkserver.net/linuxppc_2_4_devel, so we don't need these
   older Linux bits.

rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-sp8240-lsp-binaries-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-2
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-sbc8260-lsp-binaries-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-3
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-sp8240-lsp-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-2
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-sbc8260-lsp-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-3
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-kernel-headers-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-1
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-sbc8260-tools-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-3

dell 391} du -h -s /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
79M     /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target

8. The MPC8260 doesn't have a PCI bus or a hard disk drive

rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-pciutils-2.1.8-0
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-pdisk-0.8a-1

dell 405} du -h -s /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
79M     /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target

9. We are operating a standalone board, not as a server for other
   networked devices.  We can remove DHCP, gated, ipchains, PVM, etc. (~16MB)

   We are using PPCBoot to bring up Linux, and it supports DHCP.
   This means that DHCP client support (pump) can also be removed.

rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-dhcp-2.0-0
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-gated-1-1
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-ipchains-1.3.9-1
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-pvm-3.4.3-0
rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-pump-0.7.2-1

dell 442} du -h -s /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
63M     /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target

10. The following Linux kernel source packages can be removed
    since we are using newer bits.  See item 7.

rpm --erase hhl-kernel-2.2.14-1.2.2-1
rpm --erase hhl-kernel-2.4.0-test2-1.2.2-1

dell 464} du -h -s /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
63M     /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target

11. Since we don't have a disk drive, bonnie, a disk r/w perfomance tool
    can be removed.

rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-bonnie-1-0

12. An embedded board doesn't have a mouse.

rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-gpm-1.17.9-1

dell 494} du -h -s /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
63M     /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target

13. The following static libaries can be removed since they are only present
    in the target root file system.  They don't get referenced from inside of
    /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/powerpc-hardhat-linux/lib/. (~3MB)

-r--r--r--    1 root     root        43688 Aug  8  2000 ./libcom_err.a
-r--r--r--    1 root     root       313350 Aug  8  2000 ./libe2p.a
-r--r--r--    1 root     root      1421020 Aug  8  2000 ./libext2fs.a
-r--r--r--    1 root     root       250526 Aug  8  2000 ./libss.a
-r--r--r--    1 root     root       154044 Aug  8  2000 ./libuuid.a

(cd /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target/lib;\
 find . -name '*\.a' | egrep 'libcom_err|libe2p|libext2fs|libss|libuuid' |\
 xargs rm)

dell 534} du -h -s /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
60M     /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target

14. Perl is nice to have, but on an embedded board I can
    live without it. (~16MB)

rpm --erase hhl-ppc_82xx-perl-5.00503-6

dell 559} du -h -s /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
46M     /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target

15. Stripping all the files in the target root file system (~19MB)

cd /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
find . -type f -exec /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/bin/ppc_82xx-strip {} \;

dell 584} du -h -s /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
27M     /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target

16. The following packages (49) are left:

hhl-ppc_82xx-ash-0.2-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-bash-2.03-6
hhl-ppc_82xx-binutils-2.10.0.12-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-c++-2.95.2-13
hhl-ppc_82xx-cpio-2.4.2-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-diffutils-2.7-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-e2fsprogs-1.18-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-filesystem-2.0-12
hhl-ppc_82xx-fileutils-4.0-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-findutils-4.1-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-ftp-0.15-4
hhl-ppc_82xx-ftpd-0.11-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-gawk-3.0.4-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-gcc-2.95.2-13
hhl-ppc_82xx-gdb-5.0-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-gdb-client-5.0-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-gdb-server-5.0-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-getty_ps-2.0.7j-0
hhl-ppc_82xx-glibc-2.1.3-1e
hhl-ppc_82xx-grep-2.4-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-gzip-1.2.4-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-inetd-0.10-6
hhl-ppc_82xx-ldconfig-1.9.5-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-libstdc++-2.10.0-13
hhl-ppc_82xx-libtermcap-2.0.8-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-modutils-2.1.121-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-netperf-2.1pl3-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-net-tools-1.53-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-ping-0.10-6
hhl-ppc_82xx-popt-1.4-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-procps-2.0.4-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-psmisc-18-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-sash-3.4-5
hhl-ppc_82xx-sed-3.02-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-sh-utils-2.0-4
hhl-ppc_82xx-strace-4.2-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-sysvinit-2.77-6
hhl-ppc_82xx-tar-1.13.11-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-tcpdump-3.4-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-telnet-4.4.2-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-telnetd-0.10-4
hhl-ppc_82xx-termcap-9.12.6-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-textutils-2.0-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-tftp-0.15-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-util-linux-2.10m-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-vi-5.6-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-zlib-1.1.3-2
hhl-remove-1-0
hhl-rpmconfig-0.14-1

17. It we don't care about locales, different characters set, etc.
    We can save another ~12MB. This means we could get the root file
    system down to ~15MB.  However, I am happy to stop at 27 MB since
    I hit my goal of being under 32 MB.

1.8M    /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target/lib/gconv
4.0M    /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target/share/locale
7.0M    /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target/share/i18n

18. I kept going with this exercise, and got the root file system down under
    8 MB.  The remaining packages at this point are:

hhl-ppc_82xx-bash-2.03-6
hhl-ppc_82xx-binutils-2.10.0.12-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-c++-2.95.2-13
hhl-ppc_82xx-filesystem-2.0-12
hhl-ppc_82xx-fileutils-4.0-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-gcc-2.95.2-13
hhl-ppc_82xx-gdb-client-5.0-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-getty_ps-2.0.7j-0
hhl-ppc_82xx-glibc-2.1.3-1e
hhl-ppc_82xx-inetd-0.10-6
hhl-ppc_82xx-ldconfig-1.9.5-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-libstdc++-2.10.0-13
hhl-ppc_82xx-libtermcap-2.0.8-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-modutils-2.1.121-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-net-tools-1.53-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-popt-1.4-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-procps-2.0.4-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-psmisc-18-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-sh-utils-2.0-4
hhl-ppc_82xx-sysvinit-2.77-6
hhl-ppc_82xx-telnet-4.4.2-3
hhl-ppc_82xx-telnetd-0.10-4
hhl-ppc_82xx-termcap-9.12.6-2
hhl-ppc_82xx-util-linux-2.10m-1
hhl-ppc_82xx-zlib-1.1.3-2

dell 126} du -s -k /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target
7853    /opt/hardhat/devkit/ppc/82xx/target

------------------\\----------------------\\----------------------------
Jon Diekema        |                       | Smiths Industries
(616) 241-8310     |                       | 3290 Patterson Avenue, SE
diekema_jon@si.com \\                      \\  Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991


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* RE: HOWTO: Creating a root file system < 32 MB
@ 2001-08-31 14:35 Navin Boppuri
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Navin Boppuri @ 2001-08-31 14:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linuxppc-Embedded (E-mail)


I agree with Wolfgang on this. Look at Linux BootDisk HOWTO doc. There
is a striaght forward approach to creating a ext2 file system from
scratch. They also talk about small tricks you can do to cut down on the
size of the file system. The target file system from Mvista is just a
collection of all the binaries and libraries for the 8xx. You dont need
to start from this target, you may just copy the bins and libs into your
own small file system.

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/buildroot.html

Navin.
-----Original Message-----
From: Wolfgang Denk [mailto:wd@denx.de]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 8:19 AM
To: diekema_jon
Cc: linuxppc-embedded@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: HOWTO: Creating a root file system < 32 MB



Jon,

in message <m15cnZX-001SysC@bucks> you wrote:
>
> Objective:
>     Create a Linux root file system that is under 32MB for a MPC8260
target.

Ummm... 32 MB? That's HUGE!!! Most of the systems I see  in  products
have root filesystems in the size of 2...8 MB.

> Direction:
...
>     board.  We will start with all the packages in HHL 1.2, and
>     removed the fluff until we hit our target size.

I  disagree  with  this  method  in  general.  Taking  any  "standard
distribution" and removing things will always be a poor way to design
an   embedded   system.   You  will  always  get  caught  in  strange
interdependencies, where you cannot remove A (which you don't  need),
because  it's  needed  for  some  function of B (which you also don't
need), but another function of B is used by C, which is important  to
you.

If you want to build a lean system you have to do it  the  other  way
round: bottom up.

See also: .sig below :-)

Wolfgang Denk

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Phone: (+49)-8142-4596-87  Fax: (+49)-8142-4596-88  Email: wd@denx.de
Perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything  to  add,
but when there is no longer anything to take away.
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