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From: Ritesh Harjani (IBM) <ritesh.list@gmail.com>
To: Sourabh Jain <sourabhjain@linux.ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, maddy@linux.ibm.com,
	mpe@ellerman.id.au
Cc: npiggin@gmail.com, chleroy@kernel.org, shivangu@linux.ibm.com,
	hbathini@linux.ibm.com, mahesh@linux.ibm.com,
	adityag@linux.ibm.com, venkat88@linux.ibm.com,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, Mahesh Kumar G <mahe657@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] powerpc/crash: stop watchdogs before booting kdump kernel
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2026 08:45:26 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tsq6ushd.ritesh.list@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <094c3b8d-8ec7-4358-8bd7-f1b7eaa3a0c8@linux.ibm.com>

Sourabh Jain <sourabhjain@linux.ibm.com> writes:

>> Looking at the code, we already have a mechanism to register a crash
>> shutdown handler which anyways is getting called from
>> default_machine_crash_shutdown(). So, I think we could use this generic
>> crash handler register mechanism and keep the wdt specific calls within
>> pseries/setup.c file...
>
> That's a good idea. I wasn't aware of this crash handler.
>
> The main reason I wanted to stop the watchdog as soon as the kernel
> enters the architecture-specific crash code is that, on PowerPC, the
> crash path sends IPIs to all other CPUs and waits for their response
> before continuing. Because of this, I thought it would be better to
> stop the watchdog as early as possible.
>
> I knew there was an IPI timeout, but I just checked and it's set to
> 10 seconds. See crash_kexec_prepare_cpus() in crash.c.
>

That's just the max worst case timeout value, which is unlikely to be
hit. FWIW, the watchdog timeout value in the example usage for
sbd.8.pod.in file seems to be 15sec.

> The crash handler is called after the IPI wait. So, in theory, the watchdog
> timeout could occur before the IPI timeout. But I think that's a very 
> unlikely
> scenario, though.

I agree.

> So I think disabling the watchdog from the crash handler
> is a reasonable approach.
>
> Please share your thoughts.
>

yup! I agree, the crash handler looks to be a much better approach
since it avoids, hcall definitions scattered in common
powerpc/kexec/crash.c file. This also provides setjmp/longjmp for
recovering from any bogus exceptions during crash handling.

But we will know more when you will give it a try!

-ritesh


      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-11  3:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-03  7:02 [PATCH 0/1] powerpc/crash: protect kdump from active watchdogs Sourabh Jain
2026-06-03  7:02 ` [PATCH 1/1] powerpc/crash: stop watchdogs before booting kdump kernel Sourabh Jain
2026-07-09 16:31   ` Ritesh Harjani
2026-07-10  6:08     ` Sourabh Jain
2026-07-11  3:15       ` Ritesh Harjani [this message]

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