From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: jikos@kernel.org, Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, live-patching@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] livepatch: Clear relocation targets on a module removal
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 09:28:09 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190905142809.bpalx7wmihkvavxy@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190905135259.7obdymb7c2wdgafw@pathway.suse.cz>
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 03:52:59PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Thu 2019-09-05 08:15:02, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 08:08:32AM -0500, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 01:09:55PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > > > > I don't have a number, but it's very common to patch a function which
> > > > > uses jump labels or alternatives.
> > > >
> > > > Really? My impression is that both alternatives and jump_labels
> > > > are used in hot paths. I would expect them mostly in core code
> > > > that is always loaded.
> > > >
> > > > Alternatives are often used in assembly that we are not able
> > > > to livepatch anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Or are they spread widely via some macros or inlined functions?
> > >
> > > Jump labels are used everywhere. Looking at vmlinux.o in my kernel:
> > >
> > > Relocation section [19621] '.rela__jump_table' for section [19620] '__jump_table' at offset 0x197873c8 contains 11913 entries:
> > >
> > > Each jump label entry has 3 entries, so 11913/3 = 3971 jump labels.
> > >
> > > $ readelf -s vmlinux.o |grep FUNC |wc -l
> > > 46902
> > >
> > > 3971/46902 = ~8.5%
> > >
> > > ~8.5% of functions use jump labels.
> >
> > Obviously some functions may use more than one jump label so this isn't
> > exactly bulletproof math. But it gives a rough idea of how widespread
> > they are.
>
> It looks scary. I just wonder why we have never met this problem during
> last few years.
Who knows what can happen when you disable jump label patching.
Sometimes it may be harmless. A panic is probably the worst case.
There may be other fail modes which are harder to detect.
> My only guess is that most of these functions are either in core
> kernel or in code that we do not livepatch.
This is definitely not the case. We recently introduced jump label
checking in kpatch-build, and it complains a lot. The workaround is to
replace such uses with static_key_enabled().
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-05 14:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-19 12:28 [RFC PATCH 0/2] livepatch: Clear relocation targets on a module removal Miroslav Benes
2019-07-19 12:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] livepatch: Nullify obj->mod in klp_module_coming()'s error path Miroslav Benes
2019-07-28 19:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-19 11:26 ` Petr Mladek
2019-07-19 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] livepatch: Clear relocation targets on a module removal Miroslav Benes
2019-07-22 9:33 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-14 12:33 ` Miroslav Benes
2019-07-28 20:04 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-14 11:06 ` Miroslav Benes
2019-08-14 15:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-16 9:46 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-22 22:36 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-23 8:13 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-26 14:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-27 15:05 ` Joe Lawrence
2019-08-27 15:37 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-09-02 16:13 ` Miroslav Benes
2019-09-02 17:05 ` Joe Lawrence
2019-09-03 13:02 ` Miroslav Benes
2019-09-04 8:49 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-04 16:26 ` Joe Lawrence
2019-09-05 2:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-09-05 11:09 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-05 11:19 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-09-05 13:23 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-09-05 13:31 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-09-05 13:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-09-05 11:39 ` Joe Lawrence
2019-09-05 13:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-09-05 13:15 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-09-05 13:52 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-05 14:28 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2019-09-05 12:03 ` Miroslav Benes
2019-09-05 12:35 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-09-05 12:49 ` Miroslav Benes
2019-09-05 11:52 ` Miroslav Benes
2019-09-05 2:32 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-09-05 12:16 ` Miroslav Benes
2019-09-05 12:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-09-06 12:51 ` Miroslav Benes
2019-09-06 15:38 ` Joe Lawrence
2019-09-06 16:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-26 13:44 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-08-26 15:02 ` Josh Poimboeuf
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