From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] livepatch,module: Remove .klp.arch and module_disable_ro()
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 10:45:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200416154514.xqqyvdtm6hjynbx2@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200416153131.GC6164@linux-8ccs.fritz.box>
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 05:31:31PM +0200, Jessica Yu wrote:
> > But I still not a fan of the fact that COMING has two different
> > "states". For example, after your patch, when apply_relocate_add() is
> > called from klp_module_coming(), it can use memcpy(), but when called
> > from klp module init() it has to use text poke. But both are COMING so
> > there's no way to look at the module state to know which can be used.
>
> This is a good observation, thanks for bringing it up. I agree that we
> should strive to be consistent with what the module states mean. In my
> head, I think it is easiest to assume/establish the following meanings
> for each module state:
>
> MODULE_STATE_UNFORMED - no protections. relocations, alternatives,
> ftrace module initialization, etc. any other text modifications are
> in the process of being applied. Direct writes are permissible.
>
> MODULE_STATE_COMING - module fully formed, text modifications are
> done, protections applied, module is ready to execute init or is
> executing init.
>
> I wonder if we could enforce the meaning of these two states more
> consistently without needing to add another module state.
>
> Regarding Peter's patches, with the set_all_modules_text_*() api gone,
> and ftrace reliance on MODULE_STATE_COMING gone (I think?), is there
> anything preventing ftrace_module_init+enable from being called
> earlier (i.e., before complete_formation()) while the module is
> unformed? Then you don't have to move module_enable_ro/nx later and we
> keep the MODULE_STATE_COMING semantics. And if we're enforcing the
> above module state meanings, I would also be OK with moving jump_label
> and static_call out of the coming notifier chain and making them
> explicit calls while the module is still writable.
>
> Sorry in advance if I missed anything above, I'm still trying to wrap
> my head around which callers need what module state and what module
> permissions :/
Sounds reasonable to me...
BTW, instead of hard-coding the jump-label/static-call/ftrace calls, we
could instead call notifiers with MODULE_STATE_UNFORMED.
--
Josh
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-14 16:28 [PATCH 0/7] livepatch,module: Remove .klp.arch and module_disable_ro() Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 1/7] livepatch: Apply vmlinux-specific KLP relocations early Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 17:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-14 18:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 19:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-15 14:30 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-15 16:29 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-15 14:34 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-15 16:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 2/7] livepatch: Remove .klp.arch Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-15 15:18 ` Jessica Yu
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 3/7] livepatch: Prevent module-specific KLP rela sections from referencing vmlinux symbols Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 4/7] s390/module: Use s390_kernel_write() for relocations Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-16 8:56 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-16 12:06 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-16 13:16 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-17 1:37 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 5/7] x86/module: Use text_poke() " Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 6/7] livepatch: Remove module_disable_ro() usage Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-15 15:02 ` Jessica Yu
2020-04-15 16:33 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-16 9:28 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-16 12:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 7/7] module: Remove module_disable_ro() Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 18:27 ` [PATCH 0/7] livepatch,module: Remove .klp.arch and module_disable_ro() Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-14 19:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-15 14:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-15 16:17 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-16 15:31 ` Jessica Yu
2020-04-16 15:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2020-04-17 8:27 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-17 8:50 ` Jessica Yu
2020-04-16 9:45 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-16 12:20 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-17 9:08 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-15 0:57 ` Joe Lawrence
2020-04-15 1:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-15 1:37 ` Joe Lawrence
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