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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Cc: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [POC 0/7] livepatch: Make livepatch states, callbacks, and shadow variables work together
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2024 12:08:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zr3TrqIWrEvuj2-b@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.21.2407251618220.21729@pobox.suse.cz>

On Thu 2024-07-25 16:19:30, Miroslav Benes wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 06:04:21PM +0100, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > > This POC is a material for the discussion "Simplify Livepatch Callbacks,
> > > Shadow Variables, and States handling" at LPC 2013, see
> > > https://lpc.events/event/17/contributions/1541/
> > > 
> > > It obsoletes the patchset adding the garbage collection of shadow
> > > variables. This new solution is based on ideas from Nicolai Stange.
> > > And it should also be in sync with Josh's ideas mentioned into
> > > the thread about the garbage collection, see
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20230204235910.4j4ame5ntqogqi7m@treble
> > 
> > Nice!  I like how it brings the "features" together and makes them easy
> > to use.  This looks like a vast improvement.
> > 
> > Was there a reason to change the naming?  I'm thinking
> > 
> >   setup / enable / disable / release
> > 
> > is less precise than
> > 
> >   pre_patch / post_patch / pre_unpatch / post_unpatch.

I wanted to point out that the callbacks are called _only_ when
the states are added or removed. They are not called when the state
is preserved during the atomic replace.

The pre_patch... naming scheme might create an assumption that they
are _always_ called during the livepatch transition.

But I see that the new names might be misleading in other ways.

I am going to use the "pre_patch..." names in the next version of
the patchset.


> > Also, I'm thinking "replaced" instead of "obsolete" would be more
> > consistent with the existing terminology.
> > 
> > For example, in __klp_enable_patch():
> > 
> > 	ret = klp_setup_states(patch);
> > 	if (ret)
> > 		goto err;
> > 
> > 	if (patch->replace)
> > 		klp_disable_obsolete_states(patch);
> > 
> > it's not immediately clear why "disable obsolete" would be the "replace"
> > counterpart to "setup".
> > 
> > Similarly, in klp_complete_transition():
> > 
> > 	if (klp_transition_patch->replace && klp_target_state == KLP_PATCHED) {
> > 		klp_unpatch_replaced_patches(klp_transition_patch);
> > 		klp_discard_nops(klp_transition_patch);
> > 		klp_release_obsolete_states(klp_transition_patch);
> > 	}
> > 
> > it's a little jarring to have "unpatch replaced" followed by "release
> > obsolete".

I see.

> I agree. I would also stick to the existing naming. It is clearer to me.

Fair enough.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-15 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-10 17:04 [POC 0/7] livepatch: Make livepatch states, callbacks, and shadow variables work together Petr Mladek
2023-11-10 17:04 ` [POC 1/7] livepatch: Add callbacks for introducing and removing states Petr Mladek
2023-11-11  0:54   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-11  3:19   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-10 17:04 ` [POC 2/7] livepatch: Allow to handle lifetime of shadow variables using the livepatch state Petr Mladek
2024-07-25 11:31   ` Miroslav Benes
2024-08-15 13:43     ` Petr Mladek
2023-11-10 17:04 ` [POC 3/7] livepatch: Use per-state callbacks in state API tests Petr Mladek
2024-07-25 11:48   ` Miroslav Benes
2024-08-16 16:02     ` Petr Mladek
2023-11-10 17:04 ` [POC 4/7] livepatch: Do not use callbacks when testing sysfs interface Petr Mladek
2023-11-10 17:04 ` [POC 5/7] livepatch: Convert klp module callbacks tests into livepatch module tests Petr Mladek
2023-11-11  1:15   ` kernel test robot
2024-07-25 12:22   ` Miroslav Benes
2023-11-10 17:04 ` [POC 6/7] livepatch: Remove the obsolete per-object callbacks Petr Mladek
2023-11-10 17:04 ` [POC 7/7] livepatching: Remove per-state version Petr Mladek
2024-07-25 14:16   ` Miroslav Benes
2024-08-15 14:00     ` Petr Mladek
2023-11-10 21:33 ` [POC 0/7] livepatch: Make livepatch states, callbacks, and shadow variables work together Josh Poimboeuf
2024-07-25 14:19   ` Miroslav Benes
2024-08-15 10:08     ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2024-07-25 14:22 ` Miroslav Benes
2024-07-25 14:40   ` Nicolai Stange
     [not found]   ` <66a263d5.170a0220.b2c84.1870SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-08-21 15:28     ` Petr Mladek

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