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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	laokz <laokz@foxmail.com>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Marcos Paulo de Souza <mpdesouza@suse.com>,
	Weinan Liu <wnliu@google.com>,
	Fazla Mehrab <a.mehrab@bytedance.com>,
	Chen Zhongjin <chenzhongjin@huawei.com>,
	Puranjay Mohan <puranjay@kernel.org>,
	Dylan Hatch <dylanbhatch@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 51/63] objtool/klp: Introduce klp diff subcommand for diffing object files
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 14:29:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aOeqt32wQhB5jAD-@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bnipx2pvsyxcd27uhxw5rr5yugm7iuint6rg3lzt3hdm7vkeue@g3wzb7kyr5da>

On Wed 2025-10-08 08:27:45, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2025 at 04:01:50PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > On Wed 2025-09-17 09:03:59, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > > +static int read_exports(void)
> > > +{
> > > +	const char *symvers = "Module.symvers";
> > > +	char line[1024], *path = NULL;
> > > +	unsigned int line_num = 1;
> > > +	FILE *file;
> > > +
> > > +	file = fopen(symvers, "r");
> > > +	if (!file) {
> > > +		path = top_level_dir(symvers);
> > > +		if (!path) {
> > > +			ERROR("can't open '%s', \"objtool diff\" should be run from the kernel tree", symvers);
> > > +			return -1;
> > > +		}
> > > +
> > > +		file = fopen(path, "r");
> > > +		if (!file) {
> > > +			ERROR_GLIBC("fopen");
> > > +			return -1;
> > > +		}
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	while (fgets(line, 1024, file)) {
> > 
> > Nit: It might be more safe to replace 1024 with sizeof(line).
> >      It might be fixed later in a separate patch.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> > > +/*
> > > + * Klp relocations aren't allowed for __jump_table and .static_call_sites if
> > > + * the referenced symbol lives in a kernel module, because such klp relocs may
> > > + * be applied after static branch/call init, resulting in code corruption.
> > > + *
> > > + * Validate a special section entry to avoid that.  Note that an inert
> > > + * tracepoint is harmless enough, in that case just skip the entry and print a
> > > + * warning.  Otherwise, return an error.
> > > + *
> > > + * This is only a temporary limitation which will be fixed when livepatch adds
> > > + * support for submodules: fully self-contained modules which are embedded in
> > > + * the top-level livepatch module's data and which can be loaded on demand when
> > > + * their corresponding to-be-patched module gets loaded.  Then klp relocs can
> > > + * be retired.
> > 
> > I wonder how temporary this is ;-) The comment looks optimistic. I am
> > just curious. Do you have any plans to implement the support for
> > the submodules... ?
> 
> I actually already have a working POC for that, but didn't want to make
> the patch set even longer ;-)

Sure.

> It was surprisingly easy and straightforward to implement.

I am curious ;-)

> > PS: To make some expectations. I am not doing a deep review.
> >     I am just looking at the patchset to see how far and mature
> >     it is. And I just comment what catches my eye.
> > 
> >     My first impression is that it is already in a pretty good state.
> >     And I do not see any big problem there. Well, some documentation
> >     would be fine ;-)
> > 
> >     What are your plans, please?
> 
> >From my perspective, it's testing well and in a good enough state for
> merging soon (after the merge window?), if there aren't any objections
> to that.
> 
> There will be more patches to come, like the submodules and other arch
> support.  And of course there will be bugs discovered by broader
> testing.  But I think this is a good foundation to begin with.
> 
> And the sooner we can get people using this, the sooner we can start
> deprecating kpatch-build, which would be really nice.

Sounds reasonable and I am fine with it. I have one more question
before I give my ack ;-)

I wonder about the patchset which better integrate callbacks with shadow
variables and state API, see
https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250115082431.5550-1-pmladek@suse.com

I think that it should not be that big problem to update it on top
of this patchset. It would require:

   + moving declarations from livepatch.h to livepatch_external.h
   + updating the macros in livepatch_helpers.h
   + update callback-related code in create_klp_sections()

Or do you expect bigger problems, please?

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-09 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-17 16:03 [PATCH v4 00/63] objtool,livepatch: klp-build livepatch module generation Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 01/63] s390/vmlinux.lds.S: Prevent thunk functions from getting placed with normal text Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 02/63] vmlinux.lds: Unify TEXT_MAIN, DATA_MAIN, and related macros Josh Poimboeuf
2025-12-20 16:25   ` Carlos Llamas
2026-01-06 22:46     ` Will Deacon
2026-01-08 21:59       ` Carlos Llamas
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 03/63] x86/module: Improve relocation error messages Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 04/63] x86/kprobes: Remove STACK_FRAME_NON_STANDARD annotation Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 05/63] compiler: Tweak __UNIQUE_ID() naming Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 06/63] compiler.h: Make addressable symbols less of an eyesore Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 07/63] elfnote: Change ELFNOTE() to use __UNIQUE_ID() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 08/63] kbuild: Remove 'kmod_' prefix from __KBUILD_MODNAME Josh Poimboeuf
2025-10-20 12:20   ` Alexander Stein
2025-10-20 17:22     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-10-22  9:53       ` Anders Roxell
     [not found]   ` <CGME20251020130001eucas1p259c59daada89ad0fece76b7a86581f0e@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2025-10-20 12:59     ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-10-20 16:34   ` Mark Brown
2025-10-20 16:37   ` Cosmin Tanislav
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 09/63] modpost: Ignore unresolved section bounds symbols Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 10/63] x86/alternative: Refactor INT3 call emulation selftest Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 11/63] interval_tree: Sync interval_tree_generic.h with tools Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 12/63] interval_tree: Fix ITSTATIC usage for *_subtree_search() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-18 16:30   ` [PATCH v4.1 " Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 13/63] objtool: Make find_symbol_containing() less arbitrary Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 14/63] objtool: Fix broken error handling in read_symbols() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 15/63] objtool: Propagate elf_truncate_section() error in elf_write() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 16/63] objtool: Remove error handling boilerplate Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 17/63] objtool: Add empty symbols to the symbol tree again Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 18/63] objtool: Fix interval tree insertion for zero-length symbols Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 19/63] objtool: Fix weak symbol detection Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 20/63] objtool: Fix x86 addend calculation Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 21/63] objtool: Fix __pa_symbol() relocation handling Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 22/63] objtool: Fix "unexpected end of section" warning for alternatives Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 23/63] objtool: Check for missing annotation entries in read_annotate() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 24/63] objtool: Const string cleanup Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 25/63] objtool: Clean up compiler flag usage Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 26/63] objtool: Remove .parainstructions reference Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 27/63] objtool: Convert elf iterator macros to use 'struct elf' Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 28/63] objtool: Add section/symbol type helpers Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 29/63] objtool: Mark .cold subfunctions Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 30/63] objtool: Fix weak symbol hole detection for .cold functions Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 31/63] objtool: Mark prefix functions Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 32/63] objtool: Simplify reloc offset calculation in unwind_read_hints() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 33/63] objtool: Avoid emptying lists for duplicate sections Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 34/63] objtool: Rename --Werror to --werror Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 35/63] objtool: Resurrect --backup option Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 36/63] objtool: Reindent check_options[] Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 37/63] objtool: Refactor add_jump_destinations() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 38/63] objtool: Simplify special symbol handling in elf_update_symbol() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 39/63] objtool: Generalize elf_create_symbol() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 40/63] objtool: Generalize elf_create_section() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 41/63] objtool: Add elf_create_data() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 42/63] objtool: Add elf_create_reloc() and elf_init_reloc() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 43/63] objtool: Add elf_create_file() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 44/63] objtool: Add annotype() helper Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 45/63] objtool: Move ANNOTATE* macros to annotate.h Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 46/63] objtool: Add ANNOTATE_DATA_SPECIAL Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 47/63] x86/asm: Annotate special section entries Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 48/63] objtool: Unify STACK_FRAME_NON_STANDARD entry sizes Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 49/63] objtool/klp: Add --checksum option to generate per-function checksums Josh Poimboeuf
2025-10-27  1:19   ` Michael Kelley
2025-10-27 22:22     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-11-05 15:22       ` Michael Kelley
2025-11-11 20:09         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-11-12  1:39           ` Michael Kelley
2025-11-12  2:26             ` Michael Kelley
2025-11-12  4:04               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-11-12  4:32                 ` Michael Kelley
2025-11-12 13:25                   ` David Laight
2025-11-12 16:16                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-11-12 21:39                       ` David Laight
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 50/63] objtool/klp: Add --debug-checksum=<funcs> to show per-instruction checksums Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 51/63] objtool/klp: Introduce klp diff subcommand for diffing object files Josh Poimboeuf
2025-10-08 14:01   ` Petr Mladek
2025-10-08 15:27     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-10-09 12:29       ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2025-10-09 23:19         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:04 ` [PATCH v4 52/63] objtool/klp: Add --debug option to show cloning decisions Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:04 ` [PATCH v4 53/63] objtool/klp: Add post-link subcommand to finalize livepatch modules Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:04 ` [PATCH v4 54/63] objtool: Refactor prefix symbol creation code Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:04 ` [PATCH v4 55/63] objtool: Add base objtool support for livepatch modules Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:04 ` [PATCH v4 56/63] livepatch: Add CONFIG_KLP_BUILD Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:04 ` [PATCH v4 57/63] kbuild,objtool: Defer objtool validation step for CONFIG_KLP_BUILD Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:04 ` [PATCH v4 58/63] livepatch/klp-build: Introduce fix-patch-lines script to avoid __LINE__ diff noise Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:04 ` [PATCH v4 59/63] livepatch/klp-build: Add stub init code for livepatch modules Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:04 ` [PATCH v4 60/63] livepatch/klp-build: Introduce klp-build script for generating " Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:04 ` [PATCH v4 61/63] livepatch/klp-build: Add --debug option to show cloning decisions Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:04 ` [PATCH v4 62/63] livepatch/klp-build: Add --show-first-changed option to show function divergence Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-17 16:04 ` [PATCH v4 63/63] livepatch: Introduce source code helpers for livepatch modules Josh Poimboeuf
2025-09-18 16:32 ` [PATCH v4 00/63] objtool,livepatch: klp-build livepatch module generation Josh Poimboeuf
2025-10-07 17:38 ` Joe Lawrence
2025-10-10  7:30 ` Petr Mladek
2025-10-11  0:54   ` Josh Poimboeuf

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