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From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Joshua Peisach <jpeisach@ubuntu.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
	Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
	Anthony Iliopoulos <ailiop@suse.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] killswitch: add per-function short-circuit mitigation primitive
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 09:33:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <agsVDqdALBoHEHlv@laps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPhsuW4x8shWon8Moi5VgCq2n4E2EzaaauZ2HHpy42Rp1Y-J-g@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 17, 2026 at 11:37:36PM -0700, Song Liu wrote:
>On Sun, May 17, 2026 at 6:49 AM Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org> wrote:
>> * fail_function (CONFIG_FUNCTION_ERROR_INJECTION) is disabled in
>>   most production kernels. Even where enabled, it only works on
>>   functions pre-annotated with ALLOW_ERROR_INJECTION() in source -
>>   no help for a freshly-disclosed CVE. The debugfs UI is blocked by
>>   lockdown=integrity and the override is probabilistic.
>>
>> * BPF override (bpf_override_return) honors the same
>>   ALLOW_ERROR_INJECTION() whitelist, and BPF itself is off in many
>>   production kernels. Even where on, the operator interface is
>>   "load a verified BPF program," not a one-line write.
>
>If it is OK for killswitch to attach to any kernel functions, do we still
>need ALLOW_ERROR_INJECTION() for fail_function and BPF
>override? Shall we instead also allow fail_function and BPF override
>to attach to any kernel functions?

I don't think so. ALLOW_ERROR_INJECTION is not a security mechanism, it's an
integrity/safety mechanism for both bpf and fault injection.

It protects against a "developer or CI script doing legitimate fault injection
accidentally panics the box" scenario, not an "attacker gets in" one.

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-18 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260508195749.1885522-1-sashal@kernel.org>
2026-05-17 13:48 ` [PATCH v3] killswitch: add per-function short-circuit mitigation primitive Sasha Levin
2026-05-17 19:19   ` Brandon Taylor
2026-05-18  5:23     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-05-18  6:37   ` Song Liu
2026-05-18 13:33     ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2026-05-18 23:59       ` Song Liu
2026-05-19  0:22         ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-18 23:52   ` Song Liu

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