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From: "Jim Roland" <jroland@roland.net>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 13:35:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000201c1037e$95403420$bb1cfa18@JimWS> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200107021509.KAA52993@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0107021307160.3665-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> <9hqc7h$b7f$1@cesium.transmeta.com>

@Home tells you the same thing.  Although they portscanned me frequently,
they were checking for specific servers and actually deny traffic on ports
135-139 (Winblows traffic).  Unless they change over to non-routables (which
would kill things like ICQ, etc) they will not be able to stop me from using
ssh or others for remote access.  @Home and other providers get around the
"server" issue by capping your maximum outbound bandwidth.  This is
something I have had to live with when upload FTP files to some off-site
game servers I own.



----- Original Message -----
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!


> Followup to:
<Pine.LNX.4.21.0107021307160.3665-100000@benatar.snurgle.org>
> By author:    William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>
> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Jesse Pollard wrote:
> >
> > > Better re-read the fine print on the "fair-use" statement. BOTH DSL
> > > and Cable, or dialup (New Orleans at least) will disconnect you if you
> > > run ANY unattended operation (if they determine it IS unattended). No
> >
> > This would take a lot of watching on their part.
> >
> > My cable company occasionally portscans me, so I blackholed the
> > portscanning machine.  Even before I had done that, though, they never
> > complained about my remote logins.  They only complain if you use
> > excessive bandwidth or if you do anything commercial.
> >
> > The DSL provider here, when it was still US West, explicitly stated to
me
> > (over the phone) that they absolutely did not care what I did with it as
> > long as it was not illegal.  However they would still not give you a
> > static IP address unless you paid them extra money. :}
> >
>
> When I got Pac*Smell DSL, the installer guy (who seemed to be a
> relatively clueful type) said "and [the contract] says you're not
> allowed to run a server... but who'd know?"
>
> -hpa
>
> --
> <hpa@transmeta.com> at work, <hpa@zytor.com> in private!
> "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot."
> http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-07-03  5:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-02 15:09 Uncle Sam Wants YOU! Jesse Pollard
2001-07-02 17:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 17:49   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-02 17:56     ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-02 18:36       ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:35     ` Jim Roland [this message]
2001-07-02 18:31 ` Jim Roland
     [not found] <fa.eu2vnbv.278lg4@ifi.uio.no>
2001-07-02  0:33 ` Ted Unangst
2001-07-02  2:56   ` Michael Rothwell
     [not found] <20010701131254.A9116@tabris.domedata.com>
2001-07-01 17:41 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 18:11   ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01 19:24     ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:52     ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-02  0:13   ` Dan Hollis
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-01 17:35 Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:01 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-01 20:25   ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:29     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  0:56       ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:59         ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 20:30   ` Mike Harrold
2001-07-01 21:57   ` Tony Hoyle
     [not found]     ` <3B3FACEC.897D910A@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02  0:06       ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:31     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 22:32   ` Marius Nita
2001-07-01 23:27     ` David Schwartz
2001-07-02  0:03       ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:49         ` Jim Roland
     [not found]           ` <3B3FF9D7.9582B05B@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02  9:18             ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 23:57     ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02  0:39     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  1:00     ` Justin Guyett
2001-07-02  1:06       ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 10:26       ` Luigi Genoni
2001-07-01 23:50   ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:11     ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02  0:36       ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:45       ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  5:40         ` Graham Murray
2001-07-02  9:19           ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  2:11     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-07-02  3:06       ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-02  5:37       ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-07-02 13:53   ` Android
2001-07-02  0:26 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01  1:36 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 10:12 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 16:02   ` Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 16:06     ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
     [not found]       ` <3B3F707C.9BF8BCF7@mirai.cx>
2001-07-01 19:03         ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 19:24           ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-07-01 20:53             ` David Schwartz
2001-07-01 20:03           ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 20:14             ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 23:53               ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  1:09                 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02  1:19                   ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 19:37                     ` James A. Sutherland
2001-07-02  1:21                   ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02  1:48                   ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-07-06 19:01                   ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 18:59                 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 19:34                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-07-02  0:20             ` Jim Roland

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