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From: "Manfred Spraul" <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: "Richard Henderson" <rth@twiddle.net>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"\"Paul E. McKenney\"" <pmckenne@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: patch to allow lock-free traversal of lists with insertion
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:51:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000901c150e2$97765470$010411ac@local> (raw)

>
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 07:03:37PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > I don't *like* making Alpha's wmb() stronger, but it is the
> > only solution which doesn't touch common code.
>
> It's not a "solution" at all.  It's so heavy weight you'd be
> much better off with locks.  Just use the damned rmb_me_harder.

rmb_me_harder? smp_mb__{before,after}_{atomic_dec,clear_bit} are already ugly enough.

What about hiding all these details in the list access macros? list_insert, list_get_next, etc. With a default implementation based
on a spinlock, and the capable SMP architectures could define an optimized version.

Then Alpha could do whatever flushing is required. But please do not scatter memory barrier instructions all around the kernel.

--
    Manfred


             reply	other threads:[~2001-10-09 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-09 16:51 Manfred Spraul [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-11  1:56 RFC: patch to allow lock-free traversal of lists with insertion Paul E. McKenney
2001-10-12  4:14 ` Rusty Russell
2001-10-13 14:48   ` Paul E. McKenney
2001-10-10 21:47 Paul McKenney
2001-10-10 22:22 ` Richard Henderson
2001-10-10 22:27 ` Richard Henderson
2001-10-10  1:19 Paul McKenney
2001-10-10  1:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-09 18:01 Paul McKenney
2001-10-09 17:46 Paul McKenney
2001-10-09 15:45 Paul McKenney
2001-10-09 17:00 ` Richard Henderson
2001-10-10  3:33   ` Paul Mackerras
2001-10-10 17:02     ` Richard Henderson
2001-10-09 15:28 Paul McKenney
2001-10-09 15:24 Paul McKenney
2001-10-09  5:27 Paul McKenney
2001-10-09  5:56 ` David S. Miller
2001-10-09  6:43   ` Richard Henderson
2001-10-09  1:55 Paul E. McKenney
2001-10-09  2:18 ` David S. Miller
2001-10-09  6:52 ` Richard Henderson
2001-10-09  9:03   ` Rusty Russell
2001-10-09 16:11     ` Richard Henderson
2001-10-10  1:39       ` Rusty Russell
2001-10-09  7:13 ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-09  7:46   ` Dipankar Sarma
2001-10-09  8:21     ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-09  8:48       ` Dipankar Sarma

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