From: "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
To: "'Rafael J. Wysocki'" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: "'LKML'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"'Daniel Lezcano'" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
"'Christian Loehle'" <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
"'Artem Bityutskiy'" <artem.bityutskiy@linux.intel.com>,
"'Aboorva Devarajan'" <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>,
"'Linux PM'" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 0/2] cpuidle: teo: Refine handling of short idle intervals
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 07:36:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <000f01dba95c$d0504b10$70f0e130$@telus.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4661520.LvFx2qVVIh@rjwysocki.net>
On 2025.04.03 12:16 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
Hi Rafael,
> This series is intended to address an issue with overly aggressive selection
> of idle state 0 (the polling state) in teo on x86 in some cases when timer
> wakeups dominate the CPU wakeup pattern.
>
> In those cases, timer wakeups are not taken into account when they are
> within the LATENCY_THRESHOLD_NS range and the idle state selection may
> be based entirely on non-timer wakeups which may be rare. This causes
> the prediction accuracy to be low and too much energy may be used as
> a result.
>
> The first patch is preparatory and it is not expected to make any
> functional difference.
>
> The second patch causes teo to take timer wakeups into account if it
> is about to skip the tick_nohz_get_sleep_length() invocation, so they
> get a chance to influence the idle state selection.
>
> I have been using this series on my systems for several weeks and observed
> a significant reduction of the polling state selection rate in multiple
> workloads.
I ran many tests on this patch set.
In general, there is nothing significant to report.
There seemed to be a little less power use for the adrestia test and it took a little longer to execute, but the average wakeup latency was the same.
I am still having noise and repeatability issues with my main periodic tests, where CPU is swept from low to high at serveral work sleep frequencies.
But I didn't observe anything significant.
In order to use more shallow idle states with a periodic workflow, I launched 2000 threads with each at 113 Hertz work/sleep frequency and almost no work to do for each work packet.
The patched version used between 1 and 1.5 less processor package power, at around 85 watts.
The patched version spent about 3.5% in idle state 0 verses about 5% for the unpatched version.
The patched version spent about 31.8% in idle state 1 verses about 30.2% for the unpatched version.
Test computer:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10600K CPU @ 4.10GHz
Distro: Ubuntu 24.04.1, server, no desktop GUI.
CPU frequency scaling driver: intel_pstate
HWP: disabled.
CPU frequency scaling governor: performance
Ilde driver: intel_idle
Idle governor: teo
Idle states: 4: name : description:
state0/name:POLL desc:CPUIDLE CORE POLL IDLE
state1/name:C1_ACPI desc:ACPI FFH MWAIT 0x0
state2/name:C2_ACPI desc:ACPI FFH MWAIT 0x30
state3/name:C3_ACPI desc:ACPI FFH MWAIT 0x60
... Doug
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-09 14:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-03 19:16 [PATCH v1 0/2] cpuidle: teo: Refine handling of short idle intervals Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-04-03 19:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] cpuidle: teo: Move candidate state lookup to separate function Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-04-03 19:18 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] cpuidle: teo: Refine handling of short idle intervals Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-04-16 15:00 ` Christian Loehle
2025-04-16 15:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-04-17 11:58 ` Christian Loehle
2025-04-17 15:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-04-17 17:18 ` Christian Loehle
2025-04-17 19:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-04-09 6:52 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] " Artem Bityutskiy
2025-04-09 12:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-04-09 14:36 ` Doug Smythies [this message]
2025-04-09 14:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-04-14 7:15 ` Aboorva Devarajan
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