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From: "C. Slater" <cslater@wcnet.org>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting?
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:43:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <001501c10980$f42035a0$fe00000a@cslater> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <NOEJJDACGOHCKNCOGFOMOEKECGAA.davids@webmaster.com>



>
> >     - Replace all saved structures
>
> > what if the layout of these changes as it often does?
>
> You would want to convert all structures into a neutral encoding scheme
> that would support transferring structures across versions. BER comes to
> mind, as it provides for an easy way to ignore stuff you don't understand
> and support multiple versions of the same object in a single encoding.
>
> However, this would be a truly massive task. And the big challenge would
be
> what to do when an older kernel doesn't understand something essential. It
> could be simplified significantly by supporting live replacement only of
> kernels of the same version, but this seems to defeat much of the purpose.
>
> DS

I don't think that it would be possible to switch kernels when one was not
properly set up to do it, if thats what you mean. You could only switch
between kernels that have been compiled to support live switching.

I do see you'r point with the datastructures changeing. We would need to use
some format that all properly setup kernels could understand, then we would
only need to write enough to convert the structs to the middle format and
back when they change. I am not familer with BER, but if it is suitable, it
may help.

Are you saying that swaping the kernels out altogether would be a massive
task, or that saveing/restoring the datastructures would be a massive task.

  Colin


       reply	other threads:[~2001-07-10 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <NOEJJDACGOHCKNCOGFOMOEKECGAA.davids@webmaster.com>
2001-07-10 20:43 ` C. Slater [this message]
2001-07-11  3:50   ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? FORT David
2001-07-11  9:10   ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-11 15:41     ` C. Slater
2001-07-11 18:11       ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? [MOSIX] Carlos O'Donell Jr.
2001-07-12 10:16       ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? Helge Hafting
2001-07-11 22:12     ` Paul Jakma
2001-07-11 22:14       ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-11 22:36         ` C. Slater
2001-07-11 23:44           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-12  1:17             ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 15:39               ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-12 16:23                 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-12 17:37                   ` Mike Borrelli
2001-07-12 18:05                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-13 10:07                     ` Pau Aliagas
2001-07-12 18:48                   ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-12 10:12             ` Ralf Baechle
2001-07-12 15:32           ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-11 22:36         ` David Schwartz
2001-07-12  7:23         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-12 10:05           ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-13  6:50             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-12 17:58           ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-12 23:24           ` swsusp again [was Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting?] Pavel Machek
2001-07-13 21:08             ` Alan Cox
2001-07-11 22:46       ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? Kip Macy
2001-07-11 23:02         ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-12  0:31         ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12  1:10           ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-11 23:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-12  7:23       ` Ville Herva
2001-07-13  1:11 tas
2001-07-13  3:45 ` Ian Stirling
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-12 15:32 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 12:23 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 14:55 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-07-12  4:48 Frank Davis
2001-07-12  5:08 ` John Alvord
2001-07-13  9:10   ` Chuck Hemker
2001-07-12  1:03 Torrey Hoffman
2001-07-12  1:24 ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 10:07   ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 12:11     ` Ian Stirling
2001-07-12 12:54       ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 14:15         ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-07-12 23:17   ` Pavel Machek
2001-07-12 20:47 ` Wilfried Weissmann
     [not found] <994895240.21189@whiskey.enposte.net>
2001-07-12  0:10 ` Stuart Lynne
2001-07-11  9:52 David Balazic
2001-07-11 10:08 ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-07-11 19:12   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-11 15:19 ` C. Slater
2001-07-10 18:42 C. Slater
2001-07-10 18:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-10 21:11 ` Jesper Juhl

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