bandwidth

bandwidth

[mirabilos]

duh! You argue over bandwidth due to sigs >4*80, and
other ppl here are QUOTING SIGS which is much worse,
and even the kcsf-ing LMKL footer.
And yep I have a .sig which I don't use on LKML due
to bandwidth.

Another point: look at the headers. I'd like LKML to
strip all these X- thingies, the "Received:" etc.
so that the messages I get have a bare minimum header
consisting just of To: and Subject: (maybe MIME).

-mirabilos

Re: bandwidth

[Gerhard Mack]

On Tue, 1 May 2001, mirabilos wrote:

> Another point: look at the headers. I'd like LKML to
> strip all these X- thingies, the "Received:" etc.
> so that the messages I get have a bare minimum header
> consisting just of To: and Subject: (maybe MIME).
> 

Er you wish to remove the abillity to trace abusive email?


--
Gerhard Mack

gmack@innerfire.net

<>< As a computer I find your faith in technology amusing.

Re: bandwidth

[J . A . Magallon]

On 05.01 mirabilos wrote:
> 
> Another point: look at the headers. I'd like LKML to
> strip all these X- thingies, the "Received:" etc.
> so that the messages I get have a bare minimum header
> consisting just of To: and Subject: (maybe MIME).
> 

What you have todo is to learn how to configure your mailer to display
headers you want. elm and balsa can do it. Do not know about Outlook...
(btw, it is curious, mailing to lkml with outlook...)

-- 
J.A. Magallon                                          #  Let the source
mailto:jamagallon@able.es                              #  be with you, Luke... 

Linux werewolf 2.4.4-ac1 #1 SMP Tue May 1 11:35:17 CEST 2001 i686

Re: bandwidth

[Russell King]

On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 05:53:12PM +0200, J . A . Magallon wrote:
> What you have todo is to learn how to configure your mailer to display
> headers you want. elm and balsa can do it. Do not know about Outlook...
> (btw, it is curious, mailing to lkml with outlook...)

Outlook express is different from outlook.  Outlook doesn't let you
look at the mail headers.  Outlook express doesn't, but doesn't display
them by default (iirc, you need to look at the message properties).

PS, you can't remove Received: headers at source - they are added by
each hop on the mails journey across the Internet.

--
Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk)                The developer of ARM Linux
             http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html

Re: bandwidth

[mirabilos]

> What you have todo is to learn how to configure your mailer to display
> headers you want.

Not the displaying annoys me, it's the traffic. The headers usually are
less than multiple quoted sigs, though.

>                   elm and balsa can do it. Do not know about
Outlook...
> (btw, it is curious, mailing to lkml with outlook...)

I'm not the only one. I prefer telnet but its cut&paste is broken, so
I can't reply. But OjE shows no extra headers for me, just they go
through
the 31kbps phone line :(

-mirabilos
--
EA F0 FF 00 F0 #$@%CARRIER LOST

Re: bandwidth

[Ralf Baechle]

On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:35:05AM -0000, mirabilos wrote:

> > What you have todo is to learn how to configure your mailer to display
> > headers you want.
> 
> Not the displaying annoys me, it's the traffic. The headers usually are
> less than multiple quoted sigs, though.

Headers serve a technical purpose.  So for example adding Received: headers
is a MUST according to RFC 2822, 3.8.2:

3.8.2 Received Lines in Gatewaying

   When forwarding a message into or out of the Internet environment, a
   gateway MUST prepend a Received: line, but it MUST NOT alter in any
   way a Received: line that is already in the header.

Similar for the other headers; basically all of them cannot be removed
without loosing functionality or putting the reliability of the mail
system at stake.  Let me just say mail loops ...

  Ralf