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From: "Paul Fulghum" <paulkf@microgate.com>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup, partion code
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 22:08:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002801c0e1a3$5dfb8f20$0201a8c0@mojo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0105202032260.10653-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>

From: "Alexander Viro" <viro@math.psu.edu>
> On Sun, 20 May 2001, Paul Fulghum wrote:
> > I'll be the first to admit there is some ugliness in my driver.
>
> So will anyone here regarding his or her code. Count me in, BTW.
>
> Could you reread the posting you are refering to?

Sorry if I misunderstood. My post was as much in
response to several current threads revolving around
device major numbers and ioctl calls (I use both!).

Many postings seem to imply driver writers must be flawed for
using these flawed facilities. Driver writers don't use device
major numbers and ioctl calls because they are brain damaged, they use
them because they are accepted practice and they work (albeit imperfectly).

I have no problem moving to better solutions *as they become available*.

But I have seen multiple references to 'causing pain' for people
by restricting their use while alternatives  (only now being discussed
and decided) are years away in the next stable kernel.

All I hope for  is a reasonable path to get there (better alternatives) from
here.
My 2 cents, with no intent to offend anyone.

Paul Fulghum paulkf@microgate.com
Microgate Corporation http://www.microgate.com






  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-21  3:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 164+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-19  6:23 [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup, partion code in userspace Ben LaHaise
2001-05-19  6:57 ` [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup, partion code inuserspace Andrew Clausen
2001-05-19  7:04   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-19  7:23     ` Andrew Clausen
2001-05-19  8:30       ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-19 10:13         ` Andrew Clausen
2001-05-19 14:02         ` [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup, partion code Alan Cox
2001-05-19 16:48           ` Erik Mouw
2001-05-19 17:45             ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-05-19 19:38               ` Erik Mouw
2001-05-19 20:53                 ` Steven Walter
2001-05-19 18:51           ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-20  2:18             ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-05-20  2:22               ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-20  2:34                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-05-20  2:48                   ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-20  3:26                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-20 10:23                       ` Russell King
2001-05-20 10:35                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 18:46                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-20 18:57                           ` Russell King
2001-05-20 19:10                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-20 19:42                               ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 20:07                                 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-20 20:33                                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 23:59                                   ` Paul Fulghum
2001-05-21  0:36                                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21  3:08                                       ` Paul Fulghum [this message]
2001-05-20 20:07                                 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-20 23:46                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-05-21  0:32                                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21  3:12                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-21 19:32                                     ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-23  1:15                                     ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-05-20  2:36                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20  2:51                   ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-20 21:13                     ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-21 20:20                       ` Alan Cox
2001-05-21 20:41                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21 21:29                           ` Alan Cox
2001-05-21 21:51                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21 21:56                               ` Alan Cox
2001-05-21 22:10                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-21 22:22                                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-22  2:28                                     ` Paul Mackerras
2001-05-22 15:41                                     ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 13:33                                   ` Jan Harkes
2001-05-22 16:30                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-22  0:22                               ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-22  0:57                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-05-22  1:13                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-22  1:18                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-05-22  7:49                                       ` Alan Cox
2001-05-22 15:31                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-05-22 15:31                                           ` Alan Cox
2001-05-22 15:38                                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-05-22 15:42                                               ` Alan Cox
2001-05-20  2:31             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 16:57             ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-20 19:02               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-20 19:11                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 19:18                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-05-20 19:24                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 19:34                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-20 19:27                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-20 19:33                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 19:38                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-20 19:57                 ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-21 13:57                 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-19  9:11     ` [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup, partion code inuserspace Andrew Morton
2001-05-19  9:20       ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-19  7:58   ` Ben LaHaise
2001-05-19  8:10     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-19  8:16       ` Ben LaHaise
2001-05-19  8:32         ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-19  9:42 ` [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup, partion code in userspace Christer Weinigel
2001-05-19  9:51 ` Christer Weinigel
2001-05-19 11:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-05-19 14:25   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-21  8:14     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-05-22  9:07       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-19 13:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-19 13:57 ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup) Alexander Viro
2001-05-19 15:10   ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH]device " Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-19 15:18     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-19 16:01     ` Willem Konynenberg
2001-05-20 20:52       ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-20 20:53       ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 18:13   ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH] device " Linus Torvalds
2001-05-19 23:19     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-19 23:31       ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH]device " Jeff Garzik
2001-05-19 23:32         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-19 23:39         ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 15:47           ` F_CTRLFD (was Re: Why side-effects on open(2) are evil.) Edgar Toernig
2001-05-20 16:20             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 19:01               ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-20 19:30                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21 17:16           ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH]device arguments from lookup) Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-21 16:26             ` David Lang
2001-05-21 18:04               ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-21 20:14             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-22 15:24               ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 16:51                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-22 17:49                   ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 20:22                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-23  4:19                   ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-23  4:50                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-23 13:50                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-23 13:50                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-23 15:58                       ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-24  0:23                       ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-24  7:47                         ` Marko Kreen
2001-05-24 14:39                           ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-24 15:20                             ` CHR/BLK needed? was: Re: Why side-effects on open Marko Kreen
2001-05-24 17:12                             ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH]device Albert D. Cahalan
2001-05-24 17:25                         ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH]device arguments from lookup) Daniel Phillips
2001-05-24 20:59                           ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-24 21:26                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-25  1:03                               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-25 11:00                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-26  3:07                               ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-26 22:36                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-27 13:32                                   ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-27 20:40                                     ` Ben LaHaise
2001-05-27 20:45                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-27 21:50                                       ` Marko Kreen
2001-05-28  1:26                                       ` Horst von Brand
2001-05-29 10:54                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-29 13:54                                           ` Horst von Brand
2001-05-19 23:52   ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-20  0:18     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20  0:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-20  0:52         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-20  1:03         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-20 19:41           ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD Alan Cox
2001-05-21  9:45           ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH]device arguments from lookup) Andrew Clausen
2001-05-21 17:22           ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 18:53           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-24  9:20             ` Malcolm Beattie
2001-05-24 19:15               ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-22 18:41         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-22 19:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-22 19:16             ` Peter J. Braam
2001-05-22 20:10               ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-22 20:59                 ` Peter J. Braam
2001-05-23  9:23                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-24 21:07                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-24 22:00                   ` Hans Reiser
2001-05-25 10:56                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-01  3:24                       ` [reiserfs-list] " Hans Reiser
2001-05-23  9:13               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-20 20:23   ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH] device " Pavel Machek
2001-05-21 20:38     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-19 18:31 ` [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup, partion code in userspace Linus Torvalds
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-05-19 15:56 Ben LaHaise
2001-05-19 16:25 ` [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup, partion code Alan Cox
2001-05-19 16:36   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-19 16:44   ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-05-19 18:01   ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-05-19 18:34   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-19 22:34     ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-19 23:42       ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20  0:11         ` Alan Cox
2001-05-20 17:10       ` Padraig Brady
2001-05-20 19:53   ` Pavel Machek

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