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From: "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
To: "'Rik van Riel'" <riel@surriel.com>,
	"'Rafael J. Wysocki'" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: "'Linux PM'" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'Peter Zijlstra'" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"'Frederic Weisbecker'" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"'Thomas Gleixner'" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"'Paul McKenney'" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"'Thomas Ilsche'" <thomas.ilsche@tu-dresden.de>,
	"'Aubrey Li'" <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
	"'Mike Galbraith'" <mgalbraith@suse.de>,
	"'LKML'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3] cpuidle: poll_state: Add time limit to poll_idle()
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 00:13:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003601d3c4d1$fe4c0440$fae40cc0$@net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 0LAnfFcYLFfdw0LApfPvKF

On 2018.03.25 23:00 Doug Smythies wrote: 
> On 2018.03.25 14:25 Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Sun, 2018-03-25 at 23:34 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:15:52 PM CEST Rik van Riel wrote:

...[snip]...

>>>> 
>>>> OK, I am still seeing a performance
>>>> degradation with the above, though
>>>> not throughout the entire workload.
>>>> 
>>>> It appears that making the idle loop
>>>> do anything besides cpu_relax() for
>>>> a significant amount of time slows
>>>> things down.
>>> 
>>> I see. 
>
> I have no proof, but I do not see that as
> the problem.
>
> I think the issue is the overall exiting
> and then re-entering idle state 0 much
> more often, and the related overheads, where
> interrupts are disabled for short periods.
>
> My jury rigged way of trying to create similar
> conditions seems to always have the ISR return with
> the need_resched() flag set, so there is no difference
> in idle state 0 entries per unit time between kernel
> 4.16-rc6 and one with the poll fixes added.
>
> i.e. the difference between these numbers over some time:
>
> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpuidle/state0/usage
>
> Rik, I wonder if you see a difference with your real
> workflow?

Using iperf, I was able to show a difference on my computer.
Another computer was used as the server, and my test computer
was the client. (the other way around didn't show a difference)

With Kernel 4.16-rc6 I got about ~2000 idle state 0 entries
per minute and ~155 seconds residency. ~32 watts package power.

With the poll stuff included I got ~46000 idle state 0 entries
per minute and ~53 seconds residency. ~20 watts package power.  

... Doug

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-26  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-14 14:08 [PATCH v3] cpuidle: poll_state: Add time limit to poll_idle() Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-22 16:32 ` Rik van Riel
2018-03-22 17:09   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-22 17:19     ` Rik van Riel
2018-03-22 17:24       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-25 20:15     ` Rik van Riel
2018-03-25 21:34       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-25 21:45         ` Rik van Riel
2018-03-26  5:59         ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-26  7:13         ` Doug Smythies [this message]
2018-03-26  9:35           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-26 16:32         ` Rik van Riel
2018-03-26 21:44           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-26 21:48             ` Rik van Riel
2018-03-27 17:59     ` Rik van Riel
2018-03-27 21:06       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-03-14 15:00 Doug Smythies
2018-03-20 10:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-25  0:28 Doug Smythies
2018-03-25 11:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-25 21:41   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-26  6:01 ` Doug Smythies

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