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From: "Dan Maas" <dmaas@dcine.com>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown?
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:38:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003a01c0769f$0a12b650$0701a8c0@morph> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa.e3022cv.v2ucim@ifi.uio.no> <fa.naq8vev.74ai08@ifi.uio.no>

> > Being able to shut down by hitting the power switch is a little luxury
> > for which I've been willing to invest more than a year of my life to
> > attain.  Clueless newbies don't know why it should be any other way, and
> > it's essential for embedded devices.

Just some food for thought - hitting the power switch on my old Indy
actually performs the equivalent of "shutdown -r now"; the system only cuts
the power when it's done cleaning up (sometimes several minutes later). I
suspect most workstation-class systems do similar things.

Of course this creates a confusing distinction between "pulling the plug"
and "hitting the power switch." Uninformed users might even be more
bewildered by the flurry of disk activity after performing the latter; heck,
I wouldn't blame someone who freaks out and pull the plug to make it stop
=).

Also, such a system obviously has little benefit in the event of an AC power
failure.

Dan


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       reply	other threads:[~2001-01-04 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.e3022cv.v2ucim@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.naq8vev.74ai08@ifi.uio.no>
2001-01-04 22:38   ` Dan Maas [this message]
2001-01-08 23:19 Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown? Bernd Eckenfels
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-03 12:55 Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-03 15:26 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-03 15:38   ` Michael Rothwell
2001-01-03 16:18   ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-03 16:27   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-03 16:42     ` Alex Belits
2001-01-04  8:00       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-04 17:39         ` Alex Belits
2001-01-03 18:52     ` Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-04  9:57       ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-04 10:14         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-04 10:25           ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-04 17:43           ` David Lang
2001-01-04 17:52             ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-04 18:00               ` David Lang
2001-01-04 18:11                 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-05  4:12                   ` Chipzz
2001-01-05  4:18                     ` Alan Cox
2001-01-05 16:55                   ` Mike Touloumtzis
2001-01-05 16:57                   ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-05 22:09                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-04 17:59             ` Alan Cox
2001-01-04 18:10               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-04 18:15                 ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-04 18:19                   ` David Lang
2001-01-04 18:20                     ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-04 19:42                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-04 20:31                         ` egger
2001-01-04 20:59                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-04 21:05                             ` egger
2001-01-04 22:45                             ` Erik Mouw
2001-01-04 18:23                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-05 12:04                   ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-04 18:21               ` Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-04 18:11             ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-04 21:00         ` Brett G. Person
2001-01-05 22:05         ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-04 19:21     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-04 21:08       ` Stefan Traby
2001-01-04 22:49         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-05  1:01           ` Stefan Traby
2001-01-05  8:10             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-05 11:05             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-05 11:58         ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-06 19:57           ` Marc Lehmann
2001-01-06 20:09             ` Stefan Traby
2001-01-06 20:35               ` Chris Mason
2001-01-06 21:49                 ` Marc Lehmann
2001-01-08 12:02             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09  9:34               ` Roger Gammans
2001-01-05  0:31       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-05  8:00         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-05 12:46           ` Alan Cox
2001-01-05 12:59             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-05 13:22             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-05 10:31         ` Stephen C. Tweedie

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