From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:36:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:36:47 -0500 Received: from mailout1-1.nyroc.rr.com ([24.92.226.146]:17704 "EHLO mailout1-1.nyroc.rr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:36:35 -0500 Message-ID: <003a01c0769f$0a12b650$0701a8c0@morph> From: "Dan Maas" To: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown? Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:38:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > Being able to shut down by hitting the power switch is a little luxury > > for which I've been willing to invest more than a year of my life to > > attain. Clueless newbies don't know why it should be any other way, and > > it's essential for embedded devices. Just some food for thought - hitting the power switch on my old Indy actually performs the equivalent of "shutdown -r now"; the system only cuts the power when it's done cleaning up (sometimes several minutes later). I suspect most workstation-class systems do similar things. Of course this creates a confusing distinction between "pulling the plug" and "hitting the power switch." Uninformed users might even be more bewildered by the flurry of disk activity after performing the latter; heck, I wouldn't blame someone who freaks out and pull the plug to make it stop =). Also, such a system obviously has little benefit in the event of an AC power failure. Dan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/