Java for Linux

Java for Linux

[Anish Srivastava]

Can anyone guide me in choosing the appropriate port of Java for Linux
2.4.17 and glibc-2.2.2-10
Which is the best of the three?
Blackdown Java
IBM JAVA
Sun Java

I have heard that Blackdown supports native threads...while IBM and SUN do
not!!
Any kind of help will be greatly appreciated.....

If this mailing list id not the right place for the above question....can
anyone guide me to an appropriate mailing list

Thanks,
Anish

Re: Java for Linux

[Tomasz Rola]

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Anish Srivastava wrote:

> Can anyone guide me in choosing the appropriate port of Java for Linux
> 2.4.17 and glibc-2.2.2-10
> Which is the best of the three?
> Blackdown Java
> IBM JAVA
> Sun Java
> 
> I have heard that Blackdown supports native threads...while IBM and SUN do
> not!!
> Any kind of help will be greatly appreciated.....

I had some headaches with native threads in the past but now it seems to
be ok. The problem was with some nontrivial programs, like accessing
database and showing some dynamic info about this process at the same
time (using awt). Worked very good with green threads (not native). So
anything you try, pay attention to version numbers. I think one can tell
the difference between native and green when running on multiple cpus. It
doesn't matter whether one uses threads in the application, since java
runtime starts few threads of its own (garbage collector, display refresh
etc). So overall you should feel jvm with native threads runs faster on
multiple cpus while there shouldn't be much difference on a sigle cpu. I
am not sure how fast it can be on multiple cpus because I have never tried
it. There are some issues like thread synchronisation, that can slow it
down however. So everything depends on what java program you want to run
(and how you design/write it).

As a side note, I am using java on Linux for more than 4 years now and it
is very good and stable, at least the Blackdown port. I have less
experience with IBM and Sun's but you should be ok with any of them. There
is also kaffe vm available at www.kaffe.org. It implements older apis but
there is source code for it which may be helpful sometimes. And, recently,
I have heard of wonca vm (wonca.acunia.com, source available too) but
haven't tried it yet. If you are interested in something different, check
waba vm at http://sourceforge.net/projects/waba (non standard, very
small, opensource).

> If this mailing list id not the right place for the above question....can
> anyone guide me to an appropriate mailing list

I suppose this is not the right place. The only list I know about is
debian-java. Have a look at http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe,
there should be a link to archives somewhere too.

Hope this helps.

bye
T.

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Re: Java for Linux

[Tommy Johansson]

> Can anyone guide me in choosing the appropriate port of Java for Linux
> 2.4.17 and glibc-2.2.2-10
> Which is the best of the three?
> Blackdown Java
> IBM JAVA
> Sun Java

I have done quite a few tests with all major java vm's and IBM is always the 
fastest. The only problem is that IBM is a bit behind in vm versions. SUN is 
1.3.1 and 1.4 is in RC status, while IBM is still at 1.3.

> I have heard that Blackdown supports native threads...while IBM and SUN do
> not!!

No! all, at least from 1.3 and onwards, support native threads.

/Tommy