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From: "Jeremy Jackson" <jerj@coplanar.net>
To: "Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "Andre Hedrick" <andre@linux-ide.org>,
	"Benjamin LaHaise" <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	"Erik Andersen" <andersen@codepoet.org>,
	"Jos Hulzink" <josh@stack.nl>, "jw schultz" <jw@pegasys.ws>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: IDE and hot-swap disk caddies
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:25:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <005201c1d675$ba168400$7e0aa8c0@bridge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16qWI0-0007Hb-00@the-village.bc.nu>

I was suggesting that there are common cases where
the electrical parts at the drive (single drive) end are
taken care of.

what comes before is an hdparm -b 2 (tristate),
then power off drive,  then yank it out. (if the
PCI chipset supports it, and the driver supplies a
control method)

The parts that are still rough are when you put it back
in, it doesn't have the benefit of the BIOS transfer
speed/type initialization, or the ide driver's bus scan.

Bottom line for me, I think there's enough merit to this
(although not 100% - you can only dress up frankenstein
so much) , and I'm working on cleanups, so please don't
remove the code from the next version, and anyone else
working on it, please continue, that's all.

Jeremy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: "Jeremy Jackson" <jerj@coplanar.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: IDE and hot-swap disk caddies


> > -some very cheap IDE swap bays have a mechanical interlock
> > with the power switch.  Your turn the key, and the drive shuts
> > off, before you can pull it out.  power sequencing solved? don't
> 
> No - you also have to isolate the IDE bus
> 
> > -PCMCIA has electrical hot swap support...?
> 
> Yes - but PCMCIA is effectively hot swap ISA bus, the controller is on
> the pcmcia card - different ball game
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-28 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-25  9:32 IDE and hot-swap disk caddies John Summerfield
2002-03-25 15:56 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-25 19:34   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-25 19:55     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-25 20:26       ` Wakko Warner
2002-03-25 21:20         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-25 22:32           ` Wakko Warner
2002-03-26  0:11             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-03-26 18:52           ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-27 22:38             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-27 22:29               ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-27 22:47                 ` Pedro M. Rodrigues
2002-03-27 23:21                   ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-28 11:37                   ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-27 22:51                 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28  0:01                   ` Itai Nahshon
2002-03-28  0:11                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-27 23:53                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-25 23:16   ` John Summerfield
2002-03-26  3:32     ` Mark Lord
2002-03-26  5:28     ` Jeremy Jackson
2002-03-26  8:21       ` DE " jw schultz
2002-03-26 19:01         ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-27 22:34           ` jw schultz
2002-03-27 23:17             ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-27 23:57               ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  0:17                 ` Erik Andersen
2002-03-28  0:23                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  0:31                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-28  0:40                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  2:02                         ` IDE " Jeremy Jackson
2002-03-28  9:33                           ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28  9:28                             ` Simon Richter
2002-03-28 16:25                             ` Jeremy Jackson [this message]
2002-03-28  9:33                       ` DE " Jos Hulzink
2002-03-28  0:37                   ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28  0:27                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  4:24                       ` Chuck Campbell
2002-03-28  4:32                         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  8:00                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-28  8:21                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  9:01                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-28  9:39                       ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28  9:50                         ` Offtopic: " Jos Hulzink
2002-03-28  9:53                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-28 18:31                           ` Herman Oosthuysen
2002-03-28  9:29                   ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-26 22:53       ` IDE " John Summerfield
2002-03-28 16:46         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-28 18:10           ` Mark Lord
2002-03-28 20:59             ` John Summerfield
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203252353380.25706-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-03-26 23:59 ` John Summerfield
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203271134090.28872-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-03-31 13:01 ` John Summerfield

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