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From: "Mike Black" <mblack@csihq.com>
To: "Rik van Riel" <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	"David Ford" <david@blue-labs.org>
Cc: "Jeffrey W. Baker" <jwbaker@acm.org>,
	"Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:59:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <007801c11c67$87d55980$b6562341@cfl.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0108031751590.11893-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>

I floated this idea a while ago but didn't receive any comments (or
flames)...
Couldn't kswapd just gracefully back-off when it doesn't make any progress?
In my case (with ext3/raid5 and a tiobench test) kswapd NEVER actually swaps
anything out.
It just chews CPU time.
So...if kswapd just said "didn't make any progress...*2 last sleep" so it
would degrade itself.
Doesn't sound like a major rewrite to me.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rik van Riel" <riel@conectiva.com.br>
To: "David Ford" <david@blue-labs.org>
Cc: "Jeffrey W. Baker" <jwbaker@acm.org>; "Richard B. Johnson"
<root@chaos.analogic.com>; <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage


> On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, David Ford wrote:
>
> > If it is that badly broken, isn't that sufficient criteria to justify
> > the patch?
>
> It's not just a patch. Fixing this problem will require
> a major VM rewrite. A rewrite I really wasn't willing
> to make for 2.4.
>
> I'll start writing the thing, but I won't be aiming at
> getting it included in 2.4. I guess I could code it in
> such a way to give a drop-in replacement for people
> willing to cut themselves on the bleeding edge, though ;)
>
> Rik
> --
> Virtual memory is like a game you can't win;
> However, without VM there's truly nothing to lose...
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-08-03 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-02 18:29 Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 18:52 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-02 19:10   ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 19:54     ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-02 20:10       ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 20:16         ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-02 20:28           ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-03 17:59             ` David Ford
2001-08-03 20:53               ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-03 21:59                 ` Mike Black [this message]
2001-08-03 22:08                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-04  1:06                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-03 23:58                   ` [PATCH] Disable kswapd through proc (was Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage) Daniel Phillips
2001-08-04  7:21                   ` Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage Stephen Satchell
2001-08-06  8:55                     ` Helge Hafting
2001-08-06 16:37                     ` Jeremy Linton
2001-08-07  7:51                       ` David Weinehall
2001-08-03 22:47                 ` David Ford
2001-08-02 21:01         ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-02 21:11           ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 21:44             ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-08-02 21:52               ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 21:56                 ` Miles Lane
2001-08-02 22:05                   ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 22:07                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-02 22:17                   ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 22:27                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-02 22:32                       ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 22:56                       ` BERECZ Szabolcs
2001-08-03 13:07                       ` jlnance
2001-08-03 13:31                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-06 13:22                         ` Luigi Genoni
2001-08-06 13:29                           ` David S. Miller
2001-08-02 23:46                     ` Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage pagemap_lru_lock Jeremy Linton
2001-08-02 22:15                 ` Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage Pavel Zaitsev
2001-08-02 22:20                 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-08-03 12:04 ` Anders Peter Fugmann
2001-08-03 16:03   ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-03 16:24     ` Anders Peter Fugmann
2001-08-03 21:24       ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-03 22:00         ` Anders Peter Fugmann

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